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Left Wing History, Right Wing History, John Howard's History and Real History

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Paul1405 - Please read comments before replying, what I did was draw a parallel between what happened in England as a multicultural experiment that did not work and what has happened in Australia in the past and now.
Quote "you concentrate on the small minority of Muslim people" Hitler started out with a small group, most things start out small then escalate from there sometimes out of control.
Please get another card the racists on does not work.
Sorry for the late reply, I fell asleep reading your diatribe.
Posted by Philip S, Monday, 1 October 2012 7:26:22 PM
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Ah! A subject that was close to my heart whilst my 3 children were going to school. I insisted that they did history. It was shockingly taught in the middle and the end of the Howard years. It was disgraceful. Eg: son did an assignment on "Gallipoli", because don't we just all love that bit of history and get all teary eyed, waffle about Australian mateship and whatnot. Having had the good fortune of a non-Australian education, thus know more about general Australian history than the average Aussie, I asked son: Which war are we talking about, why was there a war and what were Aussies doing in this war and where is Gallipoli? He got a great mark, but couldn't answer the above questions. He didn't get a lesson in history, but how to do an assignment.

How anybody can participate confidently in the political process of their own nation without a good grounding in history, both local and global history, is beyond me. That goes for voters and the elected representatives.

We send our elected officials of to sign all sorts of documents that ratify international agreements with limited concept of possible consequences. Both good and bad. For Australia and other nations.

There will not be many Australians who know the why, when or what of say the WTO. Yet many glibly talk about a 'global economy'.

So, our 'debates' on asylum seekers, immigration, mining royalties, trade, interest rates, defence, to name but a few, are all done in a vacuum with personlized slanging matches between Left and Right that create some news headlines and 'witty' or vitriolic soundbites relevant only for point scoring that add nothing to our future.
Posted by yvonne, Tuesday, 2 October 2012 6:53:21 PM
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Phil said
"Hitler started out with a small group, most things start out small then escalate from there sometimes out of control."
Phil I must agree with you, the extreme hate faction, who stereotype a minority as being 'criminal' etc with nothing positive, are often able to whip up hysteria and create a wanted reaction from the majority. With Hitler it was Jews. Unfortunately there are those in Australia who want to do a 'Hitler' on Muslim people.
I'm not Muslim although I have friends and neighbors who are. Regardless of what some (Muslim) people do, and regardless of the fact those people happen to be Muslim does nothing to change my attitude to my friends and neighbors.
Do you know any Muslim people, if so, what is your attitude towards them?
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 11:34:50 AM
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Paul and Steven, the Phils and Individuals of Australia demonstrate quite eloquently what happens when citizens have no grasp of global issues and history. Their kind of infantile rantings are the result of poor education. They have no concept how their uneducated easily whipped up to hysteria kind are the tinder of all the conflagrations this world has seen. They are the willing sheep of vested interests. Be it a fanatic Muslim leader, Hitler, Mao, Pol Pot, Hutu leader or an anti abortionist evangelist to name but a few examples.

These kind of people have never learned to think for themselves, have never learned to question whomever they've put up as an authority. Never learned to reflect. They're the easily led, because anybody who may have something different to say makes things scary and uncertain.
Posted by yvonne, Wednesday, 3 October 2012 2:56:24 PM
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