http://veteranstoday.com/2012/09/09/sunday-morning-september-9th-2012/
Gordon Duff of Veterans Today laments that he cannot understand Vladimir Putin who to his dismay,sucks up to Israel on one hand and pretends to be some sort of liberator on the other.

Putin rightly is a Russian Nationalist and realises that Israel is the achilles heel of the West.Putin could well be using Israel to weaken or entrap Western forces to achieve his aims.

Vladmir Putin should be seeking Global consensus rather than global conflagration like our Western lunatics.

If NAM (The Non Aligned Movement) want peace and freedom of their own people,they must resist playing the grand game of Global Imperialism.

Western Lunatics!
Unfortunately our arjay has not seen the news lately.
Libya and Egypt that is.
Defending one of the hundred or so non existent Gods.
True Lunatics, Murdered innocents.
We are headed indeed for a war.
Driven there by such uneducated rabble

Arjay, Duff said it all in his comment:
“The UN is an embarrassment as it sits and Putin and the Non-Aligned Nations are right, it has become a threat to the world.”

I have been stumped by Putins political machinations over the past decade. Good guy, bad guy, nationalist or globalist, social democrat or capitalist, I don’t know who Russia is anymore. In the old days it was simple, if you are a friend to America you are a probable enemy of the USSR, and vice versa. In the new Russia the financial oligarch’s interests and input are considered, and what they want who knows, probably the same as the European banking cartels, control through credit.
The old USSR always had a soft spot for the Middle East and Russian foreign policy will continue to reflect this.

Belly>> True Lunatics, Murdered innocents.
We are headed indeed for a war.
Driven there by such uneducated rabble<<

Belly when you say we are headed for war, do you mean that Middle Eastern nations are going to come to Australia with an army and fight us…or will we once again still have to go to their place to fight?
Belly my china Western nations are not in the Middle East to sort out the lunatics killing innocents....its the money....the oil.
Re the uneducated rabble, at the least they are being an uneducated rabble in their own country, Except for the ones who destroyed their passports and caught your Labor party’s magic carpet ride to welfareaustralia.com.

Come to think of it we can fight them on home turf soon Belly given their rate of arrival and procreation stats.

sonofgloin I am truly sorry, but in truth have much less regard for your views than you have.
I make no secret of it, the war will be started by your middle eastern *victims*
And will involve the whole world.
The act against Americas embassy is not a one off, murder is as prominent as lies in that part of the world.
Truth,including the true meaning of freedom for religion thought, is absent in that part of the planet.
And every day more die in the name of a God.
Do not throw Christianity at me, it is so much better than demands for death we are seeing.

Belly>> sonofgloin I am truly sorry, but in truth have much less regard for your views than you have.<<

Gawd Belly, I know that, you tell me often.

We can see the frustration in Gordon Duff's article which I think speaks many home truths.

Putin is ex-KGB and like the CIA old habits die hard.

Obama is trying to remove guns from their pop and the result had been record sales of fire arms and ammunition.The elites in the USA and Europe have created a situation whereby they have their own populations wanting justice and freedom and an antagonised NAM movement of 120 nations who also want freedom.This is why the Western Oligarchs want war.Unless they have a war,all their plotting,power and scheming for the last 300 yrs will have been for nothing.They are obsessive compulsive psychopaths and will destroy themselves and the planet for an ideal.Does Anders Breivik resonate with us? He smiled and luxuriated in getting 21 yrs of gaol for an ideal and showed no remorse in murdering 80+ of his own people.These are the type of people who have their fingers on the nukes.

So Belly and other non believers,it is time to wake up or taste and smell that metalic taste at the back of your tongue.It is called a nuke war.

Arjay, this is a personal observation on what a difference a few decades make.

During my formative years I was media bombarded with the communist tyrant boogie man, be he Chinese or Russian. The Reds and the Yellows were out to get us all, Uncle Sam told the world and our media told us. I watched the nightly news with my family and horrible vision from Vietnam; only hours old filled every report every night for ten years that I can recall. Then as my turn came for the conscript lottery (one brother went early in the war) the Whitlam government came to power and I was saved.

I have mentioned to you before that I see China and Russia as the biggest obstacles to OWG and the European banking cartels global domination strategy, and your response was that they were dancing to the tune as well. I believe they dance to a point. There is a particular homogeneity to the Chinese and the Russians and I can only hope that those human character traits see them rebel against governance by others.

Re others not seeing what you see, they believe they are free, and that their governments are pro them…the concept escapes them because the media hasn’t reported it on the 6pm news. They fail to recognize that one million ants have one mistress, a society set up to satiate one, like ours.