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Iran, Israel and the rest of the world

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In light of the NAM summit in Tehran, the volatile rhetoric by Iranian and Israeli politicians and the upcoming US elections, I think it’s time we started talking about the increasing tensions in the Middle East.

Why is there so little coverage in the Australian media about this?

Is America’s reluctance to engage in war with Iran economic, political or both, or have they finally learned from the Iraqi WMD fiasco? US General Martin Dempsey has stated categorically that intelligence gathering on Iran’s nuclear activities provides no proof of intentions – is this the underlying reason behind America’s reluctance?

Obama cannot afford, on the eve of the election, to alienate his voters with a military strike, and Netanyahu clearly sides with Romney. Is Israel’s perceived interference in the upcoming elections a bid to influence American Jewish and pro-Israeli voters to install another Republican puppet in the White House, thereby advancing its intent to attack Iran?

Can we believe the Ayatollah when he claims that all nuclear armaments are an abomination and evil and that Iran will never develop or use them? As the supreme religious leader, can he afford to be proved a liar? Further, what are the implications for Israel (the only nuclear power in the Middle East) if the UN takes up the Ayatollah’s request for total nuclear disarmament in the region? Israel has never formally acknowledged having nuclear weapons, but the whole world knows they do. It is unlikely they will obey such an edict, considering their history of ignoring any UN resolutions regarding their country’s policies.

Is the vile rhetoric by Iran calling for Israel to “be wiped off the map” merely a ploy to goad Israel into making the first move, knowing that they risk world condemnation and further alienation? If so, why would Iran risk such a response? If not, how serious are Iranian intentions against Israel?

Iraq is in disarray, and Israel is clearly gunning for Iran – is this just the next step in a perceived policy of ‘divide and conquer’? Is Netanyahu the most dangerous man in the world today?
Posted by scribbler, Saturday, 1 September 2012 7:47:19 AM
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its the persistant LIES that get me..that iran dude ..*NEVER SAID should be wiped off the map....and as for the INSANITY..it wants to be attacked..[back to the stone age..well thats insane*

how about those holding a dead man
in a coma..till the end of time..till egsactly the right moment,to hit and run...instant bailout etc..hard press by the media beating up the war..long planned by israel

WHO DONT EVER HAVE ANY INVESTIGATION..on their 300 nukes
yet iran has constantly let liars in ..knowing they will lie..

[like we-opens of mass destraction...lest we forget

anyhow
re usa..diebold voting machines indicate a landslide to war
so the second we get the other guy's romminy mitts..on the suitcase..its bye bye iran

then bye bye israel
from then...it wil be up to china/russia/mexico

oh well time to catch up to the latest
diebold has gone silent...

its big payoff comes to your voting booth..anyday now

http://whatreallyhappened.com/
dont say you wernt told
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 1 September 2012 9:52:34 AM
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Global Blitzkrieg: West's Terror Battalions Eye Russia Next

By: ActivistPost
Tags: COVER-UP/DECEPTIONS/PROPAGANDA
CURRENT EVENTS
POLITICS/ELECTIONS/CORRUPTION
RUSSIA
WAR/DRAFT/VETERAN AFFAIRS


Reuters lays groundwork
for Western support of Al Qaeda terrorists in Russia's Caucasus region.
http://www.activistpost.com/2012/08/global-blitzkrieg-wests-terror.html


With the US openly supporting, arming, and literally "cheering" for Al Qaeda in Syria, it should be no surprise that their support for Al Qaeda's other operations is now slowly revealing itself.

For decades, brutal terrorist campaigns have been carried out in Russia by Al Qaeda's Caucasus Mountains faction, constituting the backbone of the so-called "Chechen rebels."...

but so much interesting stuff
ron paul making a 3 rd party?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WE1Fyxwylp8

there is much going down in usa
still no diebold mention

http://www.thelonestarwatchdog.com/2012/08/31/the-possible-state-insurrection-vs-northcom-if-obama-is-reelected-and-the-possible-unintended-consequences/

goldman sax lobby
http://dailybail.com/home/goldman-sachs-bribed-senate-to-pass-bailout-bill.html

how bankers stole the world
http://dailybail.com/home/how-the-federal-reserve-bought-the-economics-profession.html

hard to tell the red flag from the black flag
or the black swan from the white..right?

its well known..abusers BLAME their victims
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/31/785271/priest-blames-child-victims/
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 1 September 2012 10:09:46 AM
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The assumption that Romney as President would play into Israeli intentions is clear but there is no guarantee that Romney will win. At best, polls have him neck and neck with Obama; in others, Obama is tipped to win with a 70% majority. While it is easy to understand why Israel is keen for Romney to win, it is less clear why Iran is escalating tensions and putting pressure on Obama to act before the elections.

Here are two opposing viewpoints from Israeli press – the first can only be described as politically (and religiously) rightwing, the second a more pragmatic opinion.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/12127#.UEFR0472B58

http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/west-of-eden/before-attacking-iran-israel-should-stop-shooting-itself-in-the-foot.premium-1.456327

With such differing opinions in Israel, it is clear that Netanyahu’s government may not only have to deal with external condemnation should they proceed with an attack on Iran.

More telling is this: http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=283399

Despite the US stating that the reduction in numbers is due to budgetary constraints, are we out of line to assume that America is refusing to dance to Israel’s tune and, echoing Martin Dempsey’s statement that he does not want to be complicit in an attack on Iran, that the US government clearly feels that their forces may be inadvertently used to Israel’s advantage at such a difficult time?

America is hurting and it is war weary. Is it any wonder that it is reluctant to engage in further military action in the Middle East? As Presidential candidate, Romney has no real idea of the state of US budget - if he wins, any promises he has made to Israel may have to take a back seat.

Right-wing sentiments in the US may do more damage to US recovery than Romney can imagine.
Posted by scribbler, Saturday, 1 September 2012 10:29:18 AM
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OUG, your a smart fella.
We watch, they play, we pay, in blood and money.
Posted by sonofgloin, Saturday, 1 September 2012 11:18:42 AM
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Iran holds much more of the blame than Israel.
Can we forget or ignore it religion leaders bar some from standing for election.
Do we not remember the brief freedoms that showed so much promise in this country's recent past.
A Blindness, intentionally so, fails to see the true intentions of this slave nation.
And it too, feeds on not even beginning to understand the middle east.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 1 September 2012 3:44:11 PM
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