Folks

Question:

What are the implications for the Gulf theocracies if youth there really are, for good or ill, embracing atheism?

Generally speaking it tends to be the more educated people who adopt atheism so they have an influence out of proportion to their numbers.

I also find it interesting that so many Arabs specifically say they want freedom of speech. I wonder if, in their minds, that includes the right to dis Islam or Muhammad.

Runner,
Are these the same thriving private schools that sometimes sexually molest their own students?

steven..what will change in the mideast..isnt for us non easterners to judge[{god gave to each one a messenger..byut those who put the messenger or his message before god plant a wind..will reap a whirlwind

NOT BY GODS HAND.
we have god concept wrong in many ways[often its not god athiest reject/for then they would be a-theo-ists[just as those studying religion..miss god all to-gether,..

god is inside everyone..omnipresent
god is eternal..[think E=energy..we learned energy cant be created NOR DESTROYED..thus god[E}>>changes form..just as indicated in the text..

god who was before the big bang..survives the big implosion of all matter...back to the prebang stage..E utters those immortal word's..*LET THERE BE LIGHT*..

and with a bang..the next big bang..
silently changes form..not state

the period betwen big bangs..is like a god breathing
birth with a bang..die with a wimper..but so much more..than men measure can measure.

BUT the key is
E=ENER-GEE..el/survives

[look up the meaning..of infinite/eternal/omnipresent..
that collectivly forms..the living form.,.,of life..in its totality.. the allness of god.

we know that god is..cause we see his creation
we know we..arnt doing it/..we know science cant explain..how god does it..

science isnt doing it..!

we cant find the true good/god
cause he is to busy getting-on..with what god does/naturally*
living in the body..he sustains being..'even'..an if 'being'..an athiest.

the allness of god...means yes..that god is with..in..even theee
as much as he was in any messanger..[recall the christo said..that ye see me do..YE wil do greater..

him born of woman..spirit made flesh
a true sun..of the father..as we all are..[enjoined mortal heirs/of the immortal eternal holy/wholy.. spirit

no matter how many hate you..one alone knows you and loves you regardless..the collective good of god

think like the www..is a collection of individual computers
and your body..a collection of living/cells..and the earth a collection of dust..lit by gods..good life sustaining life force/light

we learn..in life EVERYTHING has its reason/cause and season
its not god they reject..but the message
of one lone man..elivated into a godhead

[peace be upon his name...
not the mess-anger..but the all*ahhhhh..
[good of god..WITH-in..us all..

Steven,
And here’s a related question for you: how sustainable is that new atheism?

It seems to me that the gulf states are Lotus Lands sustained by a windfall from petrodollars and a retinue of foreign helots

How long will their new found skepticism last when the oil/gas runs dry, or, in a Climate-Change-Phobic world carbon fuels are devalued.
And,those living standard degrade, and they have to work like the rest of us?

I have visions of 1979 Iran (I am told that the Iran of the Shah was renowned for it cosmopolitanism)

Wobbles

'Runner,
Are these the same thriving private schools that sometimes sexually molest their own students? '

At least private schools have a moral basis to call child molestation wrong unlike moral relativist who continually change the rules to suite their own behaviour.

Mental illness and violence are increased by religion.
The something from nothing brigade are interested to
know where God came from?

Posted by und idly, Monday

loll...If runner and OUG knew the answer to that one, they just might have an argument:)

Runner said..."At least private schools have a moral basis to call child molestation wrong unlike moral relativist who continually change the rules to suite their own behavior.

Well religion has been teaching us all for the past 6000 years, and is that why there are so many pedophiles today? I wonder what the pope would say to that.....lol

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