I have serious doubts that this plan will stop the boats from coming.

Thanks to Rudd and Gillard, the illegals now think we are so stupid and a soft touch that they will not believe they will be in detention for long and thenwill get permanent residence.

It will now take tougher measures than Howard's to deter the illegals.

Better to implement sufficient deterants right from the start.

I do not think it will stop them, we need to reintroduce TPV and stop the FREE everything even the free lawyers to contest any adverse decisions.
Also much more strict procedures to prove who they actually are, that includes people actually going to the country and specific location to check that person lived there and was of good character. We really do not do enough to check there claims.
Also why are 95% on most of these boats men when other trouble areas the majority of refugees are women and children?

It has been reported that as many as 85% of them are on welfare our welfare, provided for our people.

Is it little wonder they come in droves, a free lunch all round.

What a joke this government is, they should never be forgiven for this mess THEY created.

Banjo I just watched an interview with Scott Morrison (Shadow Minister for immigration) on the 7.30 Report and I agree with him totally – The concessions made by the Labor government are not going to cut it. They need to adopt the full policy platform of the Libs, including TPVs.

While Labor has amazingly shifted ground, they are still only going a small distance, Morrison says about a third of the way, to where they should be going if they really wanted to decisively stop the boats.

Dunno Banjo, it seems that spending an undetermined amount of time on a desolate island did the trick before. These people are economic refugees for the most part. They had not been sitting in a wretched UN camp for years before their illegal migration, these people were sitting at home, well fed, clothed and warm.

They obviously were not prepared to endure the relative hardship previously if the outcome was up in the air, they just went in another direction, they have the funds, a passport and a choice of host nations.

But if no honest adjudication of their bona fides is carried out and they are just in a holding pattern then they will probably keep coming, so nothing except a cynical political platitude is being paid to the citizens of this nation who just want to know the true identity and background of those entering our country.

Geoffrey Blainey once wrote that those with pro-open borders views tended to see Australia as "simply a vast piece of good fortune that should increasingly be shared with the world."

He was right. Our pro-immigration ruling class really seem to have the attitude that Australia is not a real country with its own legitimate national interests but, merely, a human dumping ground for the excess populations of failed, Third World countries. They believe that Australia should be accepting an ever-increasing number of immigrants and refugees, regardless of the substantial economic and social costs to our country. This is certainly the view of Gillard’s "expert" panel which has just recommended that we increase our refugee intake to 20,000 - by far the highest per capita intake in the world.

There was a time when immigration was touted as a benefit for Australia and Australians. Now it appears the unspoken belief of the elite is that this country is too rich and too successful, and we therefore must welcome the poorest, most unproductive, most culturally inappropriate foreigners possible as part of our penance for economic and societal success.