Belly ,you are the personification of tribalism.According to you,Labor can do no wrong and Unions always have the well being of their members upper most in their policies.

I trust no political party or large organisation.They all have one singular purpose,ie the well being of those who have grasped the reigns of power.

Our system has become totally corrupted and people like you are part of the problem.

Alas, I miss CJ. I rather enjoyed his comments.

On the anonymity issue:

I imagine that for some people, having to reveal their true identities would certainly tone down their commentary, but it would have other effects. I certainly wouldn't comment on certain topics I find interesting, because my employers might not be keen on it.

If said so before as well - those who have nothing to lose don't mind real-name registration, but those employed in certain positions risk more. In certain instances, these people can have important input as their work can inform their commentary.

In the past I got more entangled in debates on OLO, though now I just find it pointless and tiring. Somewhere along the line I found that there wasn't much point as often those debating didn't care how many sources or links you could find to back your claims, they'd just revert to their initial stance.

Now I rarely descend into mud-slinging.

... I make an exception for Arjay though, because frankly, I'm not entirely convinced he's not engaging in some kind of brilliant satire. I prefer that theory to believing he's actually become such a caricature of a conspiracy theorist. By this point, I wouldn't be surprised if he began suggesting tinfoil hats to combat American psy-ops, possibly in cahoots with the Illuminati.

Garn. Tinfoil hats! Psy-ops! Obama! CIA! Trilateral commission! What can you put together for us?

arjay, good morning my sad Friend.
A truth exists here that goes over your head.
In truth every one who has seen me get heated here rest assured you in truth have not!
I am the owner of a bad temper, have spent half my life trying to control it.
And have here.
Let these facts speak for me, I have never, and never will, told arjay just what I Think of him.
His understanding of issues, ability to think clearly,.
But arjay you, not me, fight my fight for me!
And win it handsomely! for that I thank you.
ANY OBSERVER knows just by my post history!
I take to Labor/Unions, almost every day!
I DEMAND! on behalf of THE MOST IMPORTANT PEOPLE IN MY WORLD the members and supporters of both!
Improvement and accountability.
Arjay, sit quietly and think, take a break drink your coffee or tea.
Then post, now stop, no NO! think! if I answered you with the thoughtless rant you posted,would this site become just another low class graffiti wall?
I reserve my right not to *EVER* abuse you,you add color to the place.
Say some thing controversial mate! so we can have an argument!
I take no offence at the rant and hope others understand.

Arjay my compatriot in conspiracy, it was a bit of a surprise to see you hook into Belly, I thought that was my gig, lol. Don’t concern yourself with the thoughts of those who only “see” what they are told.
I think it is time for a core conspiracy thread.

Sonofglion! read my HSU blue color view thread,read my Gillard what do you think one.
Look at the calm before the storm.
Then ANY thread about my party, that did not see me demand better.
Our arjay adds color here, nothing he says makes sense,but he entertains us.
You entertain me!
I like puzzles.
Still trying to put you together, can you lend me this missing pieces?
Leg pulling mate!

Belly I don’t know “what” the Labor party is anymore and I can say the same of the Coalition to a lesser extent. The convergence of political parties of the left and the right in first world nations simply because they struggle to be all things to all people is disorientating. Each side has given ground on the manifestos that built the original parties. I don’t give a tinkers cuss about the Coalition excepting for their fiscal policies, but the loss of the “old true believers” Labor party genuinely distresses me.

The only solution to my mind is something that I know you hate….Remember the DLP split Belly? To gain any credibility back there has to be a statement of change via a purging of the lawyers and barristers that hijacked the party and replaced the suburban beer with an inner city chardonnay. But I doubt that there is even a core of old style true believers left in the party’s apparatchik. There are many left in the rank and file, but they are dying out with their generation and the new Labor fodder has a strong tinge of green running through it given they are the politically correct generation.

That you stick to the party even though the faults and treachery is obvious is what I think Arjay was alluding to. You can knock them all you like, call Gillard for the self serving creature she has morphed into, but you will still vote for them tiger.