Yuyutsu
<Once upon a time people did not live in societies - people lived with and focused on God, then societies formed as an incidental by-product and harmed no-one.>
You can not seriously believe that this is true. Societies, especially back in the so called wonderful
Primitive times were particularly cruel, torture and stoning were everyday penalties for crimes
that really do not deserve that kind of penalty. Religious societies burned harmless people
at the stake for allegedly being sinners.

Religions have always proclaimed their holiness and moral virtues, while never acknowledging that
the dark punitive side of their religion was murderous, cruel and wrong.
There has never been a society as holy and as guiltless of harm as you seem to believe.

Yuyutsu,
I'm intrigued by your position.
You assert as fact that which you believe, but for which you have not a shred of evidence.
How do you do that and keep a straight face?
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au

You assert as fact that which you believe, but for which you have not a shred of evidence.
Anthonyve,
it's just like religion.

Indi,
Nice try, but you would need to give me an example of when I have asserted a belief as a fact.
Good luck with that.
Anthony
Op

I have asserted a belief as a fact.
Anthonyve,
When you don't commit to a belief you don't need to proof it, an old easy, fence-sitting way out.

I'm sorry, Indi, I've read your latest post several times, and I simply can't make sense of it.
What are you trying to say?
Anthony
http://www.observationpoint.com.au