The the ACMA & Alan Jones topic, with associated comments, can be found at http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/06/15/jones-failed-reasonable-efforts-test-but-chaff-bags-ok/

SM,

"...and Crooks like Thomson and Williamson being shielded for years whilst they pillaged the union funds."

Here you provide a perfect example of freedom of expression that relies on bias and unproven allegations. You conveniently ignore the wiffiness of Kathy Jackson's association with the HSU, she being behind allegations against Thomson.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-06-26/jacksons-at-centre-of-hsu-allegations/4093190

only half way through reading the thread
but wikileaks didnt leake pin numbers or credit details..[nor in fact has been attributede to any 'deaths'..of informant or confidant..

never the less its an important topic to air
i was struck..by how a kid can facebook a photo..onto face book..and refused a position as teacher because of it...[im as against murdoc as i am the rest of the media[each selling the pap..that sustains their beliefs.]

silencing of discent..began affectivly during protests in qld..[bejellykie peterson]...that was refined by howard..who 'perfected..the 'yes minester' art forms of suppression corraling of public dicent.

[most affective was trippling of the cost of public liability..that stopped so much of the city artscapes..parrades and public interacting events..except for a few who went commercial..[exclusive]

but im over finding things to discent about[it only gives the mongals ideas..us voicing our own worst fears..now we got juliar [howhard mark 2]..selling us all them things...they promised for free.

sending kids to die
for old men[or young sheila's] fears..just watch..
as the motherless liar sends ofvf others mothers kids to die[every time i see her with kids i feel sad..its like she is deliberatly trying to avoid adults questions..

while plotting how to send them to afganastan...to defend the drug crop[defend the 'drugs'..their mates will be taking in the streets][ok most love speed and big pharmas adictions too[but hey govt gives them out for a great subsidy..

its time to increase defense spending
and decrease offence spending..for killing others in their own lands[next stop iran]

end the colenisation
serve the people NOT corperations[
stop giving our money away ya big spender.]..i dicent*..

and jail some lawyers while your at it
[now you know better...lol]

Hi Poirot,

No, I don't like what morons like Hadley and Jones say, but - short of incitement to violence - I would support their right to say it. Of course, I don't have to listen to them.

The point is that there is a telling difference between liking what someone says, a belief that it is 'perfectly fine', and being disgusted by it but letting it through to the keeper, so to speak.

But there shouldn't be anything nebulous about the boundaries of free speech: anything that someone says that incites violence goes beyond those boundaries, whether it is Jones and his inane chaff-bag comments, or Australia Day 'protestors' urging supporters to 'get Abbott'.

There. Now obfuscate that.

Cheers,

Joe :)

Why do you think that continually patronsing and sniggering at your opponents with smiley faces is conducive to productive discussion?

"There. Now obfuscate that."

Excellent, Joe....but I really can't be bothered (as in better things to do)

Okay :)