Dear Banjo,

You made the statement that "importing problems is
not very smart." Well it seems that we've been
doing precisely that for a very long time if you
take a look at the history of criminals in Australia.
They include the Irish, the Brits, and
many others of Christian backgrounds. Not only Muslims
as you suggest.

There have been some notorious families of crime.
The Moran Family and the Pettingill Family just to
name two come to mind. Then there's Australian Druglords,
Gangs of Oz - and of course watching any crime docs is
quite a revelation as was the TV series of "Underbelly."

Perhaps we should ban all these other nationalities -
as well?

Lexi, that is an easy way to try and dodge the issue.

True we do have enough problems with our own, but why add to our problems ?

Lexi , Banjo
I was referring to Moslem Lebanese and apologise for my generalised comment. The Lebanese you cite Lexi are all Christian Lebanese and they have had a generally positive effect on Australia. There are exceptions; both Abe Saffron and the Bayers are/ were Christian. The Lebanese accepted by the Fraser government were refugees from the civil war in Lebanon living in Syria. They were hand picked probably by the Syrians? and were in general unwanted anywhere because of their calibre. I doubt if even Lebanon wanted them back.
These people today number some 400,000 and their infiltration into the motor cycle gangs, Kings Cross sleaze, car re-birthing, insurance fraud (an insurance fire is known as a Lebanese stock take), drugs, drive by shootings and rape are indicative of their culture. They probably commute to Kings Cross from Lakemba.
Tamils may not be perfect but they are a great improvement on this.

Lexi,
I was refering to problems relating to culture, not to individual criminality. The problems of the muslim Lebs are cultural, as Siller has pointed out.

FGM is a cultural issue as is the hatred that exists between the Croats and the Serbs. It seems there are cultural issues emerging with some African groups we have accepted as refugees that need to be watched closely. Some issues are deep seated and are passed down from generations and if they persist I believe we should stop importing those groups.

I was concerned a while back about reports of violence between groups of Sri Lankens, one of which included a home invasion with an acid attack on the occupant. However I have seen nothing more for quite some time so, at this stage, am putting the violence down to emotions shortly after the end of civil war in Sri Lanka. I hope that is the case.

But we are fools if some groups show persistant conduct contarary to our social standards, and we continue to allow them in as immigrants or refugees.

Dear Siller and Banjo and Bazz,

Thank You for explaining your positions a bit
more clearly to me. However, I still have a problem
getting my mind around how we do what you propose.
Surely you can't blame entire groups of people for
the actions of a few? That was the point that I was
trying to make in my previous post. Not all Muslims
are criminals - not all Christians are saints.
And people from various cultures have adapted well
in this country and have made positive contributions.
The same as some people that you would have thought would
make positive contributions - whose cultures were
similar to ours - failed miserably in this area.

Lexi, I think this sums it up.
We are allowing some people in, but if there are problem groups why
should we bother with all the trouble of finding the bad eggs and then
paying to keep them in gaol, till they come out and start it all over again.

Why should we bother ?