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Clive Palmers immigration policy.
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Posted by Yuyutsu, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 6:43:08 PM
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@ Yuyutsu,
<<That's of course only if you give them any...As per my suggestion...>> But unless you are really Julia Gillard operating under the pseudonym Yuyutsu. And I doubt that can be the case since Susilo (bang bang) Yudhoyono & Julia (pop pop) Gillard are supping together tonight in Brizzy . Your suggestion aint going to be much of a goer Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 6:54:52 PM
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Jurplesman, it’s an interesting idea from dear old Clive.
This is my considered opinion. Reduce immigration to net zero. That’s an intake of about 35000 per annum when it stabilises, as far as I can determine. Within this, raise the refugee category from the current ~13000 to about double: 25000. That is; refugees sourced from our offshore programs, being those most urgently in need of resettlement. We could then have ~7000 for essential skills and family reunion…and ~3000 for asylum seekers who are willing to pay their way to come here by air. But only if we have…. Net zero immigration. A strict limit on the number of onshore asylum-seekers coming by air. And an end to onshore asylum seeking by boat. Posted by Ludwig, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 8:13:08 PM
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If irregular arrivals are allowed to come by air, then transferred to offshore destinations approved by the UN, then processed to await their turn for resettlement, the message will go on up the line to points of first refuge that attempting advanced placement by arriving directly is a pointless exercise. Australia will draw its refugee intake from around the world and not favour those arriving directly.
This, together with a large increase (tripling) in the annual refugee intake is something the will drive the UN to bless the arrangement. Such an annual increase has only minor impact on the total population projected over the next ten years and this should be understood by OLO'ers before knees jerk into reaction. A multiplicity of offshore transfer destinations should be investigated. The idea that it should be only Nauru will only bring expense and the very possible problem of under-resourcing the scale of the arrangement so it is overrun before it bites. The three alternatives to this are the status quo, the Greens way with its limitlessness, or stopping entry to asylum seekers by force. The first of these is responsible for a death rate of 4% of arrivals. The second has no hope of acceptance by the large majority of Australians. The last of these is something the nation rejects, IMO, but will vote for in the absence of any other solution (the coalition's strategy). I come back to the Greens and the need for them to see their future dying by paving the way for the coalition's strategy. Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 3 July 2012 10:19:42 PM
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Luciferase,
<<If irregular arrivals are allowed to come by air, then transferred to offshore destinations approved by the UN>> << A multiplicity of offshore transfer destinations should be investigated>> Wu up a minute, Luciferase. Your side has just walloped us with a Carbon Tax (remember?). But now you’re proposing allowing (read,encouraging) the illegals to 747 in from half way around the world.Then you’ll 787 them half way back across the world to an approved UN centre [no doubt equipped with all the latest developed worlds naughty CO2 producing conveniences]. So that they might sit a while until their number in the queue is called –as it inevitably will since they are in no way disqualified –then you'll 787 back to OZ-- or the US or Canada or the UK (all many carbon burning kilometres away) It’s not April 1st is it? [have you run that plan by your climate guru Tim Flannery?] Wouldn’t it be a lot simpler and economically & environmentally less costly to toughen our onshore procedures? Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 8:01:58 AM
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And I am NOT exaggerating—see below:
"An empty 737 plane chartered by the Federal Government was used to transfer a single asylum seeker from Christmas Island to Perth at the weekend." http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/-/newshome/14036715/737-chartered-for-one-asylum-seekers/ Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 4 July 2012 8:23:26 AM
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That's of course only if you give them any.
As per my suggestion (http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5241#141903), they will remain on tourist visas and only be eligible for welfare once they are Australian citizens, many years later.