Belly, you of all people are smart enough to know the sky won't all of a sudden fall in due to the carbon tax.

But you also know that the reactions of actions taken today, can often take years to surface, and that's where the worry lies.

When you have the likes of the ACCC warning this could be bad for business, one has to wonder.

The whole problem with this tax, is that NOBODY KNOWS, and that's because even the government is guessing what the effects may be, and doing their best to plan for such.

Unfortunately, plan for the worst and hope for the best is not what one could call stable government policy thinking, wouldn't you agree?

The only good thing that may come from this, is that either Gillard, or even labor, will get the chop and we can finally have an election, and let the PEOPLE decide who's best to manage our futures.

I can see you have little respect for the parliament and democracy.

Liberals have no problems governing - all they have to do to get rid of public services.
jurplesman,
Firstly, they don't practice democracy here, they only make frequent reference to it to distract from their dictatorial ways.
Secondly, the Liberals are not getting rid of public services. You just don't understand management & competence. You're obviously a public servant or some academic.

Well carbon tax day is upon us, and Juliar is already having to paper over the cracks with taxpayers' money. Alcoa and other companies have had $90m to cover the cost of the tax so as not to put union members on the street.

Belly>> It would have been far better to not respond to such a post SOG.Or would it?
Do we have standards, yes we do and we should remember that is what sets this forum above most.IF I let fly at that post, from the gutter?<<

Like you Belly I have been around for a while and I believe I carry the demeanor of a baby-boomer Aussie. We didn't whinge, we didn't run to the legal system over "little" issues, we believed in a fair go for all and we believed we would have a financially secure nation to leave our kids and grand kids. In thirty years I have seen it all stripped away, our kid now make nothing except cups of coffee, we have the highest national debt since federation and we will soon be a NET IMPORTER of food.....and I have had enough.

I don't know about you Belly but I love my country, and I have seen and been in many others. So my vitriolic attacks on imbeciles defending failed and unjust policies is a marker that I personally have reached the end of my chain, I have no understanding for Lemmings left in me. The current state of affairs is my New Guinea, they can't come past this point or it is all over. The country we knew gone, the people we knew gone, the society we knew gone.

Finally Belly my china, I always give facts and figures in my replies, the personal observations are just added background, I do not post to denigrate others, that is self inflicted from the lies and spin of my interlocutors and I just point it out.

As someone who is new to this "discussion" board I am surprised at the somewhat shallowness of the discussion. I would like to learn something new from discussion and analyses. Instead we find a plethora of emotional outbursts without supporting arguments  such as:

"this lying woman"
"utter tripe"
"grubby deal"
" bereft of reason", "simplistic of mind",which are really personal attack arguments.

I am afraid I have not learned much from this discussion so far. I learn more from my children and grand-children around the family dinner table. 
I am sorry if I sound a bit critical of the standards of this discussion board. 

In the colloquial, a “hung” parliament seems inappropriate as a descriptive.

Robert Oakeshott, what an absolute zero of a man when discussing integrity, and in possession of an intellect that exclusively focuses on his political survival. Even this self serving cretin is running his own little government, albeit at the direct of Gillard’s trainers. He is handing in little submissions from his gang of two or three on boarder control of all things these days…ridiculous. Not just a hung impotent parliament, a politically absurd parliament cobbled together by those who are eagerly willing to engage in this farce to taste power for as long as possible at whatever cost it takes, as long as it does not impact on them personally. And we Australia are bearing that cost.