Bob Carr is a great and good man he like Rudd took on the power brokers.
He would have to do that again to get over the dead meat wanting Gillards job.
The choices are Shorten, but he needs time to win over the electorate so soon or not yet.
Rudd despite Ludwig's view.
Given a chance he will make it a close run race, he has learned much on the back bench and is able.
Just think, if these fleas stick with GILLARD they are no better than the Conservatives pretending Abbott is a politician!

Anton, he's the one who, along with our best treasurer in modern times, created jobs, real jobs, not under employed jobs, stimulated the economy for years, not months and left us with billions in the bank.

You know, that one.

Who ever said it was the Democrats, were down the garden path, frolicking with the fairies should take a look now.

Those Democrats have long gone. What you see down there drinking in large quantities of pixie dust, it the true blue Labor supporters. Talk about self delusion, they taking it to an entirely new level.

I suppose you can't blame them too much. It must be hard to watch something you love sinking like a stone. But fellers, go easy on the pixie juice. Better to see what's coming, & do what you can to prevent it, rather than kid your self, even as the water closes over your head.

Bob Carr has his own interests ahead of anything else. He ran NSW into the ground, and then when it looked as though voters had got tired of his empty promises, he abandons ship for a cushy banking job with all the benefits of an ex premier.