All the arguing to and fro about carbon dioxide and whether there
should be a tax or an ets or all the other ins and outs of the matter
are destined to be forgotten.
How much thought do you think Greece, or indeed Germany, is giving to
their CO2 ets scheme at the present time.
The time is approaching rather fast, that all those schemes and
proposals will be abandoned.

No one will be prepared to spend any money whatsoever on them when
unemployment is climbing above 25%.
Spain is a classic example, they have removed subsidies for wind and
solar and one of the major solar companies has folded.

It is about time that those politicians who are aware of the real
situation spelt it out loud for those who are still trying to ignore it.

The present low growth is permanent and will eventually change into
contraction. Why is it do you think that politicians including Gillard
are still waffling on about growth ?
It is because she either does not understand or is frightened to admit
that Australia is running on borrowed Chinese time.

It is about time you all woke up and started to study what has
happened in Europe and the US and start applying the same parameters
to Australia.
Energy is the key to survival and it is about time the government did
something about hoarding our energy resources.

Like those old time religious preachers used to say;

"THE END OF GROWTH IS NIGH !"

Dear Bazz,

Public policy innovations such as the carbon tax often
struggle to become widespread. They are not eagerly
applauded. This is because communicating innovation
is no easy task - especially when the government's
focus is to get on with governing despite the toxic
environment it has to face daily from the Opposition.

I prefer to believe what economic experts tell
us about our economy and how its doing and will continue
to do in the future - providing there isn't a change in
government. I live in Victoria - and what happened under
Jeff Kennett was dreadful. The same is happening under
the current Liberal government. Labor always gets
accused of "spending." They are forced to spend because
during Liberal administrations they fail to maintain
all public and social services and infrastructure
at a constant level resulting in deterioration and
decline of services and infrastructure. It always takes
the Labor government to repair the damage done and bring
the state or the nation to a level that the Libs can start
destroying again. A house not maintained collapses -
regardless of how much you have in the bank.
What good is putting money away (a generous surplus)
and allowing everything else to deteriorate to the detriment
of the nation. That is not good economic management. It's
idiotic.

SM, sorry to link to the same website of late but it does save me wasting keystrokes in responding to your authoritative assertions. http://www.climatespectator.com.au/commentary/four-reasons-abbott-won-t-repeal-carbon-tax

LF,

The article by Daniel Palmer makes a lot of very brave assumptions:

1 That the carbon tax suddenly becomes less odious, and voters forget the lie.

2 Given the likely hood that the carbon tax will be one of the defining issues in the election, it would be suicide for Abbott not to abolish it.

3 That it will take 12-18 months to get a DD election (Abbott will certainly rush this through probably in a few months whilst it is forefront in the voters' minds.)

4 That Labor will die in a ditch to stop the tax being abolished, the risk of a DD giving Abbott control of both houses is unlikely to be the ambition of the new shadow cabinet (of which Gillard is unlikely to be a member)

Ha Ha Lexi, are you familiar with the "Turing Test"
Lexi, your reply was to something I did not write.
You just failed the test, you are not a real person but as I suspected
a computer in the basement of Labour Party HQ in Canberra.

It matters not a hoot whether we embrace carbon dioxide taxes or ets
schemes etc.
It really does not matter what the effects on our economy are with or
without the tax. We have more important fish to fry.
Investment funds are drying up, so where will the money come from to
apply the co2 reduction technologies.
Whatever funds we can russle up will be needed to restructure our
transport systems to electrical propulsion.
ie we will have to reconstruct our railways to get food to the cities.

Our pollies on both sides are away with the fairies on this.
They are still working on a "Business as Usual" economy and that died in 2006.
There are only two who declared their understanding in Canberra,
Barnaby Joyce and Martin Ferguson.
Barnaby is not taken seriously and Martin has been shut up.
Have a look and see if your library has a copy of any of Richard Heinbergs books.

Dear Bazz,

Thanks for making my day and giving me the best
laugh. I really needed it today having just returned
from visiting a relative in a nursing home.

I love your sense of humour.

Barnaby Joyce for PM?

PS: I actually like Barnaby very much -
which you may find hard to believe.