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The transformation of Tony.

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Prepared speeches would help Gillard, maybe even stop her getting slapped down in Mexico for being a meddling busy body.

I have seen Abbott on Australian agenda, articulately answering questions with no preparation possible. Juliar is incapable of wavering from the Labor mantra.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 9:20:10 PM
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The Liberal Party and Abbott are not the worker’s friends, never have been and never will be. They always make sure the biggest flow of money goes through to the top end of town. I knew as soon as they had total power by gaining control of the senate when Howard was in power that they would somehow show their true colours and bring in policies to disadvantage the ordinary working public of Australia.
The speed at which they did so though, surprised even me. They bought in Work Choices, which has since been watered down. They lost the election because of Work Choices, although they never like to admit it.

Julia Gillard did promise no Carbon Tax but she had no way of knowing when She said that, the Australian people would vote for a hung parliament and she would have no choice but to appease the Greens re: the Carbon Tax to be able to govern.

Re: retail in this country, I think the Australian people via the internet have become very savvy as to the way they were being ripped off price wise in this country and are choosing what they are willing to pay for and what they don’t need to pay for. What’s a fair price for something and what isn’t.

Newspapers in general tend to give the labour party a lot of bad press too, because at the end of the day, Newpapers are big business, with huge wealth to protect also. I think the newspapers played a bigger role in the ousting of Kevin Rudd than Julia Gillard and her party did because they really gave him non stop bad press for a month over the mining tax at the time.

I don’t trust any political parties, but in the end I think the Labour party although making some regrettable mistakes through inexperience and a hung parliament, are the better of the two, although I'm not fussed about either. I think the Liberal party are more cold-hearted in spirit than the labour party.
Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 9:52:56 PM
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Having said above that I perfer the Labour Party, I don't dislike Tony Abbott personally as a man, in fact I quite like him and the way he tends to send the Liberal party into a spin with his foot in mouth off the cuff remarks and his daring run from the parliament the other day.

It is good to have an amusing politician in parliament again although he is being made to be a good boy by the party.

Remember when Paul Keating made the comment in parliament, "that's so funny it would make a cat laugh." Makes me laugh every time I think of it.
Posted by CHERFUL, Tuesday, 19 June 2012 10:03:28 PM
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Dear CHERFUL,

I don't agree with you concerning Mr Abbott.
He's a politician who keeps going down a
base-level political path. i find it disturbing
that he relies on skewed right wing conservatives
for advice (all unelected and dangerous politically)
the likes of the Church's George Pell, the racist -
Andrew Bolt, Michael Kroger, Hugh Morgan, Christopher
Pearson - to name just a few. Abbott comes across as
an ideological throwback to the 1950s - depended and
manipulated by these people and it will take us
decades to recover - if he ever gets into the position
of PM.

Regarding the PM?

Margaret Thatcher once said:

"If one morning, I walked over the River Thames, the
headline that afternoon would read,
"Prime Minister can't swim."
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 12:09:37 PM
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Hi Lexi,
I agree with everything you say about Mr Abbott's political
views, typical liberal thinking and church thinking but still if he was
not in politicis I find his outspoken foot-in-mouth disease engaging.

It was the labour party who gave us two of the best reforms we have
Superannuation and Medicare. The Liberal party actually scrapped Medicare completely when they got back in after Gough Whitlam.
It was not a popular move with people and the Labour party eventually reinstated it.

Superannuation was originally opposed by the Liberal party too.
Then we have the draconian Work Choices. I think the liberal party would eventually take us back to the Charles Dickinson's era of almost slave labour if there was no democratic safeguards and they had total power for any length of time. It's all about how the wealth is distributed between groups and which group has the power to direct the wealth more their way.

I do think the liberals had the boat people situation under control
though and I blame the greens for the mess that is in now.
Posted by CHERFUL, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 4:26:10 PM
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Dear CHERFUL,

Before you blame anyone have a thorough read of the following
link:

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3886792.html
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 20 June 2012 5:14:05 PM
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