Ron Paul and his son Rand Paul are now on the nose for supporting the right wing agenda of Mitt Romney.Ron wrote a book about Ending the US Federal Reserve but now seems defeated.

http://tarpley.net/ Webster Tarpley observes that Obama has served his purpose using left cover to bring in Preventative Dentention,legalised assassination and the National Defence Authorisation Act.

Now the neo cons will push for Romney to bring in austerity for the USA and expand the wars into Iran which Obama has balked at.Ron Paul wants to cut a $ trillion from social security and nothing from defence.

It seems that the corporate media will now garner support for the Republicans and Romney for a hard push to the right.Study carefully the media in the USA and here,as they too fall in line.

Russia is sending troops and more weapons into Syria.If the USA and NATO were so concerned about democracy and freedom in Syria, why did they allow 40,000 Tamils to be murdered by the Sri Lankin Govt.Why do they allow austerity and poverty to kill millions around the planet.Why were a million Iraqis killed on a lie?

yes arjay..but
notice in uk..the media inquiry..is shutting the media down

just when we need the mnedia,,to stand up to abusive governance...[under ..a global homeland security ....enacted]

ruled by watchers watching us
[have u noticed the rash of spy entertainment on tv?]
bold recruting drive eh what

[maybe we should join them
after all its just too clever by half..

that fix usa pothole money..
all went into homeland security to put body scaners[and jobs]..into airports..

and secret agents into our digetal media...
and now its highjacked the media[again]..by shutting it down for abuse

its true
but what happend to true media
that watches the watchers..its long stoped looking

but i noted a commedy on abc lasst night
its brilliant at all forms of social commenmtary
\
commody is a news source..but also propaganda..
though the innocents will decry our concerns

till something wakes them
or we stop trying to wake them..[im so over helping others..who think seeing nothing means there is nuthing to see]

cant make the whorse drink..
but our fate is tied with theirs..we sink or swim together
a rising tide floats all boats..but also...we dont know..if its rising or falling

we each just do the best we can
without hurting other..

I shake my head at the contributions to this thread.
It was NEVER even a slight possibility Ron Paul would run other than last.
I wish, with all my heart, that the English inquiry, in to the biggest single threat to Democracy, Murdock or like media control.
Would in ANY WAY bring true control to them, true news reporting to us.

Yes OUG they are trying to shut down anyone like Murdoch who looks like going against this war mongering.

I thought Ron Paul would be the one honest politician who would as he promised,stop the wars and bring these Wall St criminals to justice.Webster Tarpley has been saying for a long time that Paul was a fake and is only interested in promoting his own family.It has been said that Paul had 30-40 million supporters in the USA.Jim Tucker said that his inside sources said at this last meeting they'd like to see the end of Ron Paul and Alex Jones.This may explain Ron Paul's about face.If your family gets threats what do you do? Paul may feel his done enough and wants out.

Aparently Mitt Romney has been seen by 4 people at the recent Bilderberg meeting and Romney has tried to deny it.Bill Gates was there again.Our own Bob Carr is friends with Henry Kissenger and he is a frequent Bilderberg Apostle.

It seems that Romney was given the nod become the next President at this Bilderberg meeting.Tarpley is saying to watch the media start to denegrate Obama and premote Romney.We will see how presidents are chosen by the media for the stupid population to elect.

It must be a blow, discovering your hero has feet of clay, Arjay.

And I never, ever thought I'd agree with anything Webster Tarpley said, so this was a stunning and disturbing revelation for me also.

>>Webster Tarpley has been saying for a long time that Paul was a fake<<

Do you now perhaps understand that all his "audit the Fed" blustering was nothing but a way to get himself noticed? It never had a chance of coming about, so he was perfectly safe using it as a headline.

Anyhow, commiserations to you.

One false prophet down, ninety-nine to go.

What a pity that Tarpley wasn't clearer for longer for you, Arjay.

Three days after the Christmas just past he was only critiquing Ron Paul's austerity plans; by January 17 he was merely requiring that "Ron Paul must prove bona fides by offering articles of impeachment against Obama".

But in a mad spurt of enlightenment and insight in the last 12 days – count them 12 – Tarpley has exposed Ron Paul's austerity plan as "Bilderberg Genocide"; then 10 days ago "Bilderberg tool Ron Paul, his 'Austrian' plan for austerity and genocide against 50 million Americans, and little Rand Paul's quest for the veep slot under Romney"… though by 3 days ago I think his medication had kicked in because his headline critique had mellowed to the almost polite "Ron Paul & Son Betray Their Supporters".

If you'd listened to Pericles you would have had significantly more time to adjust your thinking – again.

Despite this setback you may still prevail in your endeavours because the incompetence of these oligarchs is amazing,

" … they are trying to shut down anyone like Murdoch who looks like going against this war mongering."

Because, despite their presumably best efforts, they have been completely unable to make you shut down - or up.

Pericles,It does not make sense.If Paul was in bed with the Fed from the start,why would they endorse such attacks by him in revealing their corruption? I think he's been threatened and has capitulated.

Rand Paul was always a weak character and now endorses the war mongerer Romney.Obiviously deals have been done but the Paul clan cannot trust the Wall St criminals if they were once perceived as the enemy.

So we are now faced with a choice of Obama the socialist tyrant or Romney the war mongerer who wants to attack Iran and take on Russia/China.Choose your poison.

OBAMA has the election in the bag.
Socialist tyrant?
Not even near right.
Obama will win clearly.
Ron Paul was never a chance,reality matters.

there are no heroes..that will fix things
only ourselves..by us doing it

but once you begin doing it..you get to meet some great minds
who run some amasingly cunning spin..to hide likely treasonous criminal activities/collusions etc

in the end..you find lie upon lie upon lie
you cant cleanup one lie...without affecting other lies
so you look at the big picture...[when the golden child comes..they all have feet of clay]

sure audit the fed/no more war etc is good
but other things he wanted wernt..but we miss why he was
he was..to rip the guts out of mugs..[wanting others to do it for them]

not only did the republicans get their funds
but broke their will[and thats the game][when will folks realise this is a materialistic[sic]..hell..its not allowed to be perfect..[this realm only egsists..cause we wernt evil/vile enough to deserve hell..nor good enough to go to the light..

during our lifeterm[life sentance]here
we deevelop our passions..[refine is perhaps more apt]
for as jesus said..[what is salt..that has lost its taste..[salty]

it really is about..sorting tares[bad]..from good[wheat]
sorting the sheeple from the go go going go-at

i expected..it was just a hope bubble
and it was..ok clever people knew it all along
but we need to feel the paidn..personally..learn from our own miss take's

they all take
then trick us into giving more
till they bled the puss dry..[the puss is us][use][us-ed]*
it was just an age old method..to keep this material hell..just like it is..not justice..just us..

UOG,they are beginning to wake up and speak up because many realise the BMIC have us on the path to war with Russia/China.

Ron Paul ran a very convincing platform on restoring the constitution individual liberties,small Govt and stopping the wars.Very few could disagree with that.He was also on here, http://www.patriotsquestion911.com/ asking for a proper investigation into 911.

WMtrevor I won't write Paul off entirely.There must have been some integrity there.His son is a different matter.Rand is very weak and is just positioning himself for being president.

Correction.Rand Paul is positioning himself for being vice president.

Belly the system is rigged.It is the media who choose parties and presidents.Who controls the media?

its all about %
that extra few %
that win$$$$ govt

so mates can bailout mates
like the 30 fed reserve members exposed as gaining bailout..[for their other board seats advantage..ie colluding to rip off the people

anyhow..you must recall this is politricks[101]
i was asured by http://whatreallyhappened.com/ ..months ago
that at the important caucuss..there may be a few changed nominations

but then again..lets not forget
the vote rigging perfected...by all this
[belly says he never came anything but last

[we know..even with ballot fraud..
http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/3/2012/1936

he came 2de/3rd etc[more than a few times]..even with republican inforced media silence[play ball
or dont get a share of that court ruling..
[allowing eletion advert unlimited funding]or recall]

http://www.fff.org/blog/jghblog2012-06-13.asp

UOG ,Prehaps the Paul Clan think they can be more effective on the inside with influence than being expelled totally.It may be a good tactic.

Paul professes to be a man of God,but how do you profess Godliness and make deals with war mongering devil like Mitt Romney?

maybe you stopped watching but

Montana Madness:
GOP establishment shuts out Ron Paul supporters

By: From the Trenches
http://fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/montana-madness-gop-establishment-shuts-out-ron-paul-supporters/16476


The GOP elephant just stepped on and crushed its hardest workers. Such was the aftermath of the last weekend’s Republican State Convention in Missoula, and the ones who may pay the dearest price for this stunning display of spitefulness will likely be the candidates on the statewide Republican ticket.

The Party has just shot itself in the foot
and may have shot its candidates in the back.

Political conventions in election years are normally all about building unity, laying aside differences and “closing ranks” around the part’s chosen nominees. Accordingly, the opening speech by former governor Judy Martz on Friday morning struck just the right chord

a gracious recognition of what the ideas of Ron Paul and the enthusiasm his supporters have come to mean to the Republican Party. Martz then called upon this strong and active contingent of the Montana GOP to join with the others in forming a united front for victory.

or
ron paul dont endorse rommulust
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=19180

Fed Members Gave Their Own Banks
$4 Trillion In Secret Bailouts
http://moneybagsworld.blogspot.com/


Firm.........................Bailout amount
Citigroup........................$2.5 Trillion
Goldman Sachs.............$814 Billion
JP Morgan.....................$391 Billion
Lehman Brothers............$183 Billion
State Street Corporation..$42 Billion
KeyCorp .......................$40 Billion
Marshall & Ilsley............$21 Billion
Citibank.........................$21 Billion
General Electric (GE)......$16 Billion
Sun Trust.......................$7.5 Billion
PNC..............................$6.5 Billion
Texas Capital Bank........$2.3 Billion
Webster Bank................$2.2 Billion
Popular Inc....................$1.2 Billion
Wilmington Trust............$550 Million
LegacyTexas..................$5 Million
http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=19179

I think that a quick trip to the dictionary might be in order, one under god.

>>Fed Members Gave Their Own Banks $4 Trillion In Secret Bailouts<<

"Gave" is the past tense of the verb "to give", the definition of which is to "freely transfer the possession of (something) to (someone)".

What happened in your example is the act of "lending", which in this context is defined as "allowing a person or organization the use of a sum of money under an agreement to pay it back later, typically with interest"

The other problem that you have with our language is the word "secret", understood to signify something that is "not known or seen or not meant to be known or seen by others".

The moneys that the article refers to appeared (mirabile dictu) on the balance sheet of every bank mentioned, and those balance sheets were published and available to the general public. You can even find them on the internet.

Most people I know, except the most dedicated of conspiracy theorists, would describe those transactions using an antonym of "secret" - something like "unconcealed, open, overt, public, acknowledged etc. etc."

To put these actions into their proper context, the headline should read "Fed lends money to Banks". Which is part of their job description.

But its so much more fun to see evil around every corner, isn't it, imagining that there is somewhere a coterie of predatory bankers, hell-bent on making your life a total misery.

Incidentally, has it ever occurred to you to wonder where the Fed gets its money from? The answer might surprise you.

Have a great day.

pericules/quote..''Incidentally,..has it ever occurred to you
to wonder where the Fed gets its money from?

The answer might surprise you.""

let me reply your question with the same question
AS TO HOW THE REPAYMENT*...

Firm.........................Bailout amount
Citigroup........................$2.5 Trillion
Goldman Sachs.............$814 Billion
JP Morgan.....................$391 Billion

where is that extra money comming from

but i will reply my own question
IF YOU REPLY YOUR'S

ok on faith here is mine
citigroup lend 2.5 TRILLION*
at what rat?..,,[nix?..or 1%..say]

then cash in govt Bonds..promising 3%

worst thing is..goldman sax thunk it
they are the poisen that saw greeks spend BORROWED money on arms
via goldman harburg sax inc..who been scamming govt money for a long long time..

getting greeks bonds
while at the same time selling short on their default
too clever by half your mates

so please reply your own question
and watch..as greek banks bleed billions of euro's
via depositers drawing out a billion euro per day..[so the greks need bailout..from german banks..[who now hold the greek pannic funds]

govts dont bailout banks
if a govt promise..TO A BANK..dont do it
it never shoulf fall onto the taxpayer tomoncover the bailout bond

banks have no right to monetise
lor lend back to govt at 200%..proffit

read creature of jeckle island
why do you still defend the lies

[could be my last post]
as my comment at fairfax is deleted]
these money fixated grubs are bleeding us dry

did you watch last nights keiser report
dynomite..spot on as usual[plus china bying up big on gold

thats what got sadman insane and gadaffi into being dead
they too wanted the gold..but gold diggers dont want that
they prefer mugs buy a promise..or take an option..not seek the actual product..[and thats where a lot of money went]

bying paper promise

to buy a 'securitised'..paper
that in the end comes to a masive default
as promise bails out promise..[one good thing..is people arnt keeping their paper..cause when we do we get massive inflation...but people just want to know..their cash is safe

I'm a simple soul – at least that's what it sounds like people call me – and I just don't understand…

We have been told by the connedspiricists time, and time, and time, and time again that all of these banks can simply magic money out of thin air and 'print' new money whenever they want and with no oversight or control.

So, given that, how is it that any of them can go broke, owe and need money as a bailout from governments? These same governments who haven't made any money of their own since the Federal Reserve was established in 1913?

It's been almost 100 years – you'd think someone would have noticed there was no money before now. But over that century there are three times as many people on the planet and despite this there are more people in more places better off than at any other time in history.

I just don't understand… but at least, apparently, I'm not alone.

WM/quote..""We have been told by the connedspiricists""

love the word ab-use..llooll

"""time,[edirted]..and time again
that all of these banks...can simply magic money
out of thin air..and 'print'..new money..whenever they want

and with no oversight or control.
So,..given that,..how is it that any of them can go broke,""

good question..how indeed
easy..see how the fed gives you credit
is you bank a fraction..with it...[this deposit]..is leveraged
[up to 80 fold..but now is trying to go back to a 45 to one leverage

so they need to find cash
to meet the fed deposit arrangements

add to this that loop of govt lending...from banks
any bailout..from govt needs FIRST..meet the reserve requirments

thus now its mandated..a bulk is to be held in govt bonds
[and they cant be redeemed..[except by a bank]

cribe it better
or maybe he dont know only ridicules

""These same governments..who haven't made any money of their own since the Federal Reserve..was established in 1913?""yes egsactly
govt issued war bonds that time
bankers bought them all up
DEMANDED IMMEDIATE PAYMENT*..govt didnt have it in gold/silver
so the banks declared govt bankrupt..and govt bought in income tax..to repay the outstanding debt

""It's been almost 100 years
you'd think someone would have noticed..there was no money before now.""

no see the fed simply prints more
[monetory easing]..sure the extra notes cause inflation
but heck that deflates the actual debt..plus the debt id in notes..YOU GOT THE GLOBAL FRANCHISE OVER*

they want notes
they MUST come to you

or they send you broke
or send your bankers broke
they really are broke[but lest we forget
the british bank was formed from a tax stick
yep a tax reciept.[debt]..founded the bank of england

in usa...they promised
took the gold silver[fort knox gold is rusting]

""But over that century..there are three times
as many people on the planet and despite this..there are more people in more places better off..than at any other time in history.""

YESterdaymaybe
but tomorrow they woke up homeless
just watch..you never lived in a receeding declioning failing system have you?

In my household, the early warning that I am about to be on the losing end of an argument comes when I ask a question, and get a question in return.

"Is that a new pair of shoes?"

"Why, don't you like them?"

Or "Do you think I could go on wearing that old pair for ever?"

Or even "What did you think I was going to wear to dinner this evening, Wellington boots?"...

So it is with regret, and a feeling of deep resignation, that I decline your kind offer, one under god.

>>let me reply your question with the same question... where is that extra money comming from<<

I did once try the "I asked first" routine. The saucepan only just missed, but did make a mess of the petunias on the hall table.

I've learned my lesson.

[backs away slowly...]

Pericles excplains the money the Fed creates by a double entry book keeping exercise.These central bankers and their commercial apparatchiks are nothing but counterfeiters of our money.

The central banks in Europe set up these so called currency stabilisation funds which the Central Banks loan to them at 1% and they loan to Govts like Greece at 6%.Where did the Central banks get it from? Yes Mickey Mouse money from the click of a computer mouse.They are stealing from all the people of Europe via inflation and have the audacity to charge interest on it.It is double theft and Pericles cannot escape that reality with a double entry book keeping deception.

its ok perry
you dont know either

as i recall last time..you put up a freaking link..to the fed
that dont explain nuthin about how they trade fiat cash for fiat cash

set the rate
print of as much of as they need
inflate and deflate its bying values

belly has just begun a thread
that asks how its created out of nuthing

easy..give the mint and printer to thieves
if you hang on to your withdrawel notes[belly]..the fed floods the marketr with new ones[devaluing the old ones]..but as long as its lol taking from one bwanker to gift it to lernd back to the other bwanker

its done nuthing[except send greece banks yet more broke
as they pipeline their borowings into germaniac bwankers
same same...[think of it like you got a special thing[worth heaps cause of rareity...what happend to that rareity[value]..when everyones got one

its the same with paper
you promise to borrow their paper[to repay with paper..you can only get by giving them back more of the paper they own]

its a great scam
like i wil give you all my hair you want
you just need to promise to give me back more [of my own hair]

its that insane
great if govt is doing it
hell when capitalists do it[and the poor lose the value]

of course this one will be huge
were talking in googilians..of their franchise cash
we need to pay back all at once..at intrest..in their cash franchise

backing away can become habit forming
here plus at davids..yer getting old perry

im twittering

retweeted this

Don't Say I Didn't Warn You!

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http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/slavetobanks.php
HOW YOU BECAME A SLAVE TO THE BANKERS!

seeing as pericules isnt going to explain anytime soon
i booadcast the seed...trusting line by line..some per iq
might fill in the blanks

how the heck to find those worth following
best we learn to lead..not just poooh poo that we dont comprehend..

I would, one under god, if I believed for one split nanosecond that you would even half-understand a tiny proportion of the explanation.

>>seeing as pericules isnt going to explain anytime soon<<

Sadly, the lens through which you observe the world has the same limpid, crystalline quality as your prose. So I'll just wait until you have answered the question that I asked, to which you responded, not with an answer, but with another question.

Don't force me to say it.

Oh, if I must.

I asked first. Nyah.

pers/quote..""So I'll just wait until you have answered the question that I asked,""

follow the money?
no really..lets begin again
whats the question..

""to which you responded,
not with an answer,but with another question.""

im cant recall the question
but you must realise..my possable reply
will be limited due to the context of your question

so lets presume its not off topic troll
away from topic..but inherantly tied up with ron pauls concept..[audit the fed]

you might have asked for egsample
how money is created from nothing[leveraged fractional reserve lending..between banks each using non egsisytant monies..borrowed from closed banks]

the first thing bankers do in the morning
is take out a loan..from a closing bank

till that one day
the loan fails to appear

seriously its best if you say i didnt reply any question
please do the kindness of specicly repeating it

bring me back to the topic
what was the question?

pers/quote..""Incidentally,..has it ever occurred to you
to wonder where the Fed gets its money from?""

if this is your question
reply my answer[who prints the money]
the fed note printing branch[thats where 'it gets its money'

i will expand you silly limitaion
where does it get THE RIGHT..to print monetory easing?
where it get its 'duty'..to limit 'growth'..to under 3%
[under threat of high intrest[when they got the cash printing advantage]

but im going away from your question
is that it..where do they get money from?
the note printing arm of the fed..so what limits do they have?

how much can the monetrory easingly print?
as much as they got govt bonds for..[or they de monetised]
perviously..[see a note is debt..only value by fraud[heck one third the british bank was 'bought with a tax payed stick][a recipt

thats what money USED to be
a reddeemable reciept..for given pund values in coin
TRUE GOLD AND SILVER COIN..not freaking nickle faux gold..faux silver coin

show me the money [COIN}
money was based on..return the coin age..not kill it

to show how much has been deflated from our kmoney
[in gold silver market values]..is what creating money from thin air has measured

the more notes..out there
based on real coin..the more value

RETURN HISTORIC VALUES BACK INTO COIN
problem fixed..[one cent/peso/quan/yen/deutchmark/drackmaCOIN=100 cents..in notes]

..is near enough the crime's balancing..
top down bailout has failed
return true values BACK INTO COIN*..

bailout those with pennies[make them into dollars]..and let business earn our savings/spending

Thanks for proving my point so thoroughly, one under god.

my pleasure pericules
its great you find nothing you feel needs correcting

thats the good thing about your posts..
if one is wrong ..[in your eyes]..you stand up
when asked to explain ..'step back'..but in your heart?