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Ron Oakshots other idea

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Some will know, many will not, about Oakshots concerns about burning wast timber for electricity, or rather not be able to do it.
Any close observer of NSW forests knows in a rush to fill a badly put together contract to supply logs, more than is possible, even clear falling is taking place.
It has always been the case, from the first commercial log cut down, that waste is left to rot, and fuel bush fires.
A look at east coast forests, say in the mid north coast areas around Coopernook to Warchop, with see thousands of tonnes, left forever, after a clear falling process 2 hundred meters wide.
Then look at any timber mill,the source of many bush fires,see the thousands of tonnes of stacked waste.
Yes the usually recycled but not always saw dust heaps too.
All is fated to burn, right there in the forest or at the mill site,as the last worker to leave earns that carton of beer by lighting it.
Why has this government let the greens control and stop re use?
Broadwater Sugar mill cost millions it is capable of turning this to electricity.
At Wingham,for half a century a brick yard has been fueled this way, not by coal or oil.
Conservation need not be blind.
And waste can be, by law enforced as ONLY waste.
Let us not over look this because some do not like this man.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 15 May 2012 4:20:53 PM
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Oakshot was on TV last night, with a very big timber industry owner.
Who had geared up to sell a dust like saw dust to power stations.
He can send it to other country's! they want it, to generate power! in Europe.
Why not use it here, is it a wish to leave Bio-Mass in the forest?
This clear felling is leaving stumps and all a meter deep in the place it fell.
Log dumps have heaps containing 600 or more tonnes of logs and off cuts.
Even truck after truck of logs cut down, then rejected, then left.
A home for Ferrel cats and rats,not much else.
This all burns,much hotter, regrowth if any is not always native.
Why can we not get more use from waste and use the funds to clear and replant these destroyed areas of our forests.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 5:32:11 AM
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We really need to focus on using waste as a source of energy rather than tearing up & depleting even more natural resources.
Harness the gases & heat etc. along with wind,sea & sun power. Cut back on unnecessary power consumption.
I have recently seen houses being demolished & the bricks being shipped out & buried. That's in places where thousands of bags of fill are imported at great cost. That really isn't the way to go is it. Sewerage is being treated at huge expense & none of the gas harnessed. I'm certain there are better solutions available now, not something that still has to be invented.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 7:44:50 AM
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Belly, not wish to disagree, but I am in fact a timbe cutter now, both on my own land, and as a contractor on private land.

I can tell you now that as a feller, you select a tree, fell it, then check to see if it passes the grade, as some may look good, but turn out to be 'duds' while others visa versa.

There are many steps involved in commercial timber harvesting.

There is felling, snigging, loading and hauling, all of which are performed by separate parties, all of which don't get paid if the logs are rejected at the mill.

A load of logs, about 23 ton costs thousands landed at the mill.

The reason so much is left behind is usually because to process the left overs is becoming cost prohibitive.

As for mulching and turning into an energy source, I'm all for that, but not for export, as we are going to wake up one day and find we have sold off all the eggs, and the chickens will have died.

Finally, it cost a lot more to haul a load of wood mulch, as it does a load of coal, so that may well be another reason why it sits there.
Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 8:12:29 AM
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I recall when about 50 years ago, back in Europe they used wood shavings mixed with cement to make building blocks similar to Besser Block but twice the size & half the weight. Has this practice ever been here ?
What practical, non-polluting uses are there for wood chips ? Are we not seeing the obvious ? In fact why don't we look for alternatives ourselves rather than wait for the "experts" to come up with short-term solutions at huge expense ? What about the many pragmatists out there, I'm sure there are some brilliant ideas already. We need more labour intensive methods rather than less.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 10:12:08 AM
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Dear Belly,

I'm a bit concerned about this one and I tend to
agree with Geoff Lazarus, spokesman for Climate
Action Australia who said that if it went ahead:

"...It would put a financial incentive on destroying
forests. This would put a value on native forest
material and result in massive and widespread logging
of high conservation areas to fuel bio-mass power
stations. Rather than logging declining and
resultant emissions falling it could move drastically
in the other direction."
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 11:42:18 AM
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