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Food 'Superpower' you're kidding!

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579, if you seriously think the Chineese are going to farm the land they have acquired, using our labor, you are dilutional.

Our governments can't even stop them buying the land in the first place, how can we control whatbthey do with it.

In any case, the whole problem with providing food for the masses is affordability.

I would suggest the main reason so many go without today is due to costs.

Are you seriously going to sit there and tell me thus is going to change because of innovation.

Innovation has made it possible to fly live fish to hong kong, but it does not mean the poor people there can afford to eat live fish.

I can tell you now, the only way we could become a super provider of food is for someone else to grow, harvest and transport it, with slave labour.

Now I don't support this, but there will simply be no other viable way, but if you know of one, by all means educate me.

BTW, simply stating that innovation will fix the problem is not the answer, it is merely a suggestion, hoping for a mericle.

Just remember, almost every input cost is about to rise. Are you suggestimg the farmers etc should exhaub these increases, just so we can provide for the masses.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 13 May 2012 6:30:32 AM
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579, cute habit you have developed.
Debating with a brick wall.
My mate Rechtub, I again honor your dad butcher, is quite incapable of understanding our side of things.
Anti every thing,except the Broncos,sorry about that bloke.
See the unions you dislike so much.
For the sake of equity,and in protection of Australian wages.
Will ensure the wages paid are Representative of ours.
Point two,while mining takes place,for hundreds, of years, no worker will willingly work for wages not Representative of ours.
OH unless Tony brings back work choices, imported slaves is even a possibility then,
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 13 May 2012 7:31:20 AM
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No one is going to fly fish anywhere, if it is for nothing, get that out of your head for a start.
You are in the wrong country for slave labour, everyone is entitled to livable wages, no matter what sort of job they have.
The wages of miners is what is out of sinc with the rest of the country. They are advertising here for anyone with a heart beat to apply.
Mr's Macs pies $ 7.80 in Karatha WA.
We are not about to starve any time soon, so take it easy and stay out of the hot sun.
Posted by 579, Sunday, 13 May 2012 12:03:33 PM
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You problem 579, is that you are seeing Australia through the eyes
of a bubble, which may just pop sometime, anytime really. Mining
companies are pouring money into new projects, as that makes more
sense then paying it in tax. But as we saw during the GFC, if prices
come down, they will be the first to cancel or delay projects,
bringing mining back to reality.

At the moment our bubble depends on the China bubble. Every bubble
that I have ever known, pops at some stage, so when it does, how
many other jobs will be left, which were destroyed during the
bubble? Next you will be crying when people can't pay their
mortgage. We'll only have ourselves to blame.

Already Rio, BHP and others are running their pencils over proposed
coal projects and talking of putting them on the backburner. When
alot more of the mining industry does the same, the tears will start.

As Kohler pointed out on Business Insider this morning, five of
Australia's cities are amongst the most expensive 15 in the world.
We can only kid ourselves for so long, eventually reality returns.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 13 May 2012 1:37:22 PM
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Belly and 579, you are well aware I am not opposed to a decent wage, however, I don't support high low skilled wages, neve have.

If don't gain the skills, the. Work more hours, it's that simple.

Having said that, this whole thread (once again) is about affordability, nothing more.

Sure, you both suppor inovation in the workplace, in this case, a farm, but just remember, the more automated farmers become, the less staff they require.

So in essense, you are proposing to shoot yourselves in the foot, so as to say.

Another point, if the food was grown for free, it would still be unaffordable for many, due to all the on costs and fees.

Quite simply, we can't become a food 'super power' without some radical changes in how we operate as a nation.

Now as for us stopping China from growing their own food her, using their own labor, dream on!

They are fast becoming a global force as they are taking larger stakes in many countries and they out number us about 100 to 1.

As the world becomes more dependent on them, for resources etc, I would suggest if they say jump we will have little choice but to say, how high.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 13 May 2012 6:40:46 PM
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