Csteel, you may recall that TW stated something to the tune of the libs would be better suited to govern, I don't remember why he went the other way.

In any case, a large part of thier thinking would have been based on the fact that Julia Gillard was a new face for labor and, that she had promised we would see 'the real julia'.

Well, I like many others dont know if this is in fact, the real Julia, but most agree, she is a shocker.

If these two ind were so close to choosing the libs, in favor of labor and, labor has turned so bad, and the libs improved so much, why then would they still be offering their support for Julia Gillard and labor, if they were in fact, true independents, as voted for by their electorates.

Food for though, don't you think.

Dear Shadow Minister,

Sorry mate you have totally lost me.

You claim it would be in the independent's best interest to ditch Labour for Abbott now you are saying they are only supporting Labour because it is in their best interest.

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Dear rehctub,

You need tell me what action by this government should have warranted the independents withdrawing their support. Lack of popularity is hardly a reason to do so therefore what particular thing should have led them to take such a step?

csteele,anyone who backs this dysfunctional Labor debacle has totally lost me.They've done everything in their power to destroy our economy and sovereignty.Labor have betrayed their own people and they will suffer the consequences of this most callous and treacherous lie of collectivism being the solution to equality.

The Coalition at least want to abolish the carbon tax but I don't trust them either.They too pay homage to this notion of 'Collectivism'.

Csteele,

To simplify what I said previously:

RO and TW's support of Labor was a gamble that went really bad.

Their electorates are very conservative and the backlash has made them extremely unlikely to survive the next election.

Thus it is not in their own personal interests to abandon Juliar, and given their previous self interested actions I don't believe they will.

However, given the government's obvious poor performance, I suggested that it is clearly time for them to do the right thing and heed the wishes of their electorate.

No chance,not any, exists that those two independents, both elected as so twice or more, will turn on the government.
It can not be over looked, the dreadful National party was never going to beat either before Gillard.
Conservatives seats?
Yet Oakshots was held by a deputy PM who fled Parliament after getting too near the flame.

CS, lack of support is a huge issue, after all, without the numbers, a government can not claim office.

If a COE under performs, he/she faces the axe.

As for what have they done wrong, well, there is the lie about the carbon tax.

Now, there are those who suggest she didn't lie, as this is not a labor government in their own right.

However, There was at leas a level of deceit about the whole thing.

Then there was the back flip on Willki, remember, his vote was the crucial vote she needed to secure office.

There was the live export issue, that industry is still suffering.

There was the Slipper issue, an utter act of desperation ad, one of the motives was to assist in the back stabbing of Willki.

There was the set up on Abbott on Aust day.

We now have WS bracing us for bad news, this is after lying to the people about where our economy sits. Unfortunately, many are niece enough to have fallen for it.

I think that's enough, don't you?

ps. This all occurred in a year or less, not a life time!