Interesting angle, Bazz, and spot on.

>>Actually Baygon, in the case of the employer being complained against the laws introduced by Julia Gillard in fact presume guilt and the accused has to prove innocence.<<

It may be too much to hope for, because the focus of attention is on the life and sleaze of Mr Slipper, but wouldn't it be good if the press got hold of this angle, and ran with it.

A large, well-known Australian enterprise with whom I am working at the moment has seen a ten-fold increase in the number of staff complaints of "workplace bullying", because simply defending the charge can fall foul of the Adverse Actions provisions of the Fair Work Act. The individual who has been fingered is in the unenviable position of having to defend a charge, that can be based upon the simple act of counselling the employee.

And heaven help any manager who dares suggest that one of their team has not been pulling their weight. That also comes under the heading of "Adverse Action" - all they have to do is burst into tears in the meeting, and hey presto, their case for being bullied is already a proven fact.

By all measurements, this state of affairs should be a scandal all of its own, bigger than any Slipper alleged malfeasance.

Pericles I was not aware of the provisions under the fair work act. If that is indeed the case then the issue is even bigger than I thought.
In criminal cases one at least has the safety net in that there is an independent body that makes an assessment regarding the likelihood of securing a conviction. Given that this is absent in civil case it opens the way for people abusing the system.
So I agree forget about Slipper there is a far more important issue here - people should not be denied natural justice.
By the same token we also need to acknowledge that victims of sexual harassment, bullying and the like need to have the protection of the law - an increase in the incidence of complaints is not surprising; it is to be expected it may simply give us an indication of the real extent of the problem.

Foxy Lexi

You wrote 'The current government is acting constitutionally'. How can you think this when Gillard's own Fair Work Act presumes guilt and the accused then has to prove his/her innocence.

FFS, read the post immediately prior to yours and tell us why you followed it with a statement that would appear to ignore Gillard's law as well as the poster who pointed it out.

Austin powerless why insult in that way Lexi prefers to be called that.
She has expressed that view,and frankly you are far better than that!
Lexi is quite right, Thomson is in all probability the thieving grub he appears to be.
He however, on being charged will front criminal court not FWA.
Liberals did bribe a Labor senator, he took the bribe.
For only a short time,they refused his vote.
Then backed down.
Amazing that so many see any chance, even insults to democracy, to charge the lost and foolish Gillard as fair game but get insulted if it is their team in the spotlight.

Lexi, No ! Slipper IS guilty and I agree the government is acting
constitutionally.
The Labour government introduced the law that said so!
So if you have a complaint about that, make your complaint to your MHR.

noted the comment..on insiders
[re how julia..needed to be seen to act..]
and she did...[hoping it would end it]..but she is hiding too much

in boxing terms
she is constantly on the backfoot
going front foot..on occasion..but she needs to find a better balance

the few times she front foots it..it seems like bluster
with other adgendas and based on populist spin

im over thinking to much about it
its going to be howard all over again

toney..REALLY didnt want it
last time..[much better
..to get rid of alp longtime..[next time]

like howard[lib] was supposed to..
but alp backdoor boys got too clever...they lied..big time

only 500
onmly 1000

yeah right

no carbon tax...yeah right
tax smokers..yep..[i know libs thunk it[so guilelard did a howard
took their policy[thats the game folks...try not to let toney get free air..[a policy]..

do a howard..steal it
and make it actually do the opposite
preferably with a nice slush fund..to manage..in their later years]
or a nice lobby job..[free lance]..

like others..in the know
[knowing who is who]

which dirt
gets what fruit's..[govt bailout/gifts]..corperate welfare
green funds...public service slushfunds

[selling telstra cleard the debt..not howard]
then to proove ywo party simultude rud pumps in 65 billiuon for nbn

gifting..the bulk of it to take the copper out
and put fibre in..[telstera gets the copper?'..too?

tax payers update..what our connection fees are supposed to do

double dipping dipwits..run the assilum
peter slip's one in...thats how the glory game is played

[he beat clive palmer out..of lib pre-selection]
ya gotta give the guy credit for that.