Lexi, yes I remember Environment Minister Turnbull as being reasonably green. However, that is still a very long way from being a true environmentalist. ie; realising that ever-increasing human pressure on our environment via rapidly increasing population is something that must be curtailed decisively, and that sustainability is the all-important bottom line.

Now, please allow me to dream…..

I dream of a scenario where Bob Carr is Labor leader and Mal Turnbull is Lib top dog, and they are actually competing to be the greener party.

Carr is well ahead on the principle of sustainability, but Turny is catching up fast, due to his astute intellect, wonderfully articulate presentation and somewhat green history.

They are really slogging it out, ripping into each other. The media is loving it. The general public is lapping it up and really hanging out to see who will win!

And all the time they are upping the ante…offering greener and greener policies that are getting closer and closer to genuinely sustainability.

Oh yeah…….if only!

Fwaaark that's annoying!

< ....closer and closer to GENUINE sustainability. >

*wouldn't it be nicer to at least have someone who was attractive to look at.*

Hehe Habeen, you are meant to judge them by their ability to think,
not want to shag them.

Never understimate Obama. He's one cool and smart cookie and has
worked wonders with what he has to work with. You should tune in
to Bloomberg TV a bit

The ALP shills must be desperate to change the discussion away from the corrupt, vile, lying Un-Australian liars party. Why else would they want to convince conservatives to root for Mr Gold in my Sacks?

The Mad Monk must have them soiling their diapers hehehe :)

Your dilemma is a common one among the self employed & other wealth producers & they do understand. It's the huge number of Public Servants, Academics & other hangers-on who haven't a clue. We really need to come up with a way of getting them to understand what it means to actually do something for your money.
That's why they're drumming up Turnbull to keep the Gravy Train rolling. Absolutely no thought given to people who do it tough, as long as their Super keeps accumulating at our expense.

Malcolm was self made to a degree but he married into the Lucy Hughes family which has a lot of wealth and power to this day.

Turnbull was a merchant banker and like the NAB want the CO2 tax for the benefit of his elite.I've read and heard the arrogant rantings of this man and he treats anyone with a perceived IQ of less than 100 with utter contempt.Malcolm is a NWO elitist who uses the cover of environmentalism to be all powerful.