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Posted by DreamOn, Monday, 9 April 2012 5:23:34 PM
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Dear DreamOn,
What utter nonsense. I don't exit when things "get hot," as you claim. I pride myself on being extremely patient. The only time I exit is when I see the futility and pointlessness of continuing. And even then I make attempts in trying to explain as to why I'm leaving the discussion. As for substantiating my claims - I've always done that and provided the links as well. However, some people, no matter what's provided, unless it matches and agrees with their political inclinations - the links will be brushed aside as being "biased," or mere "opinion pieces" even though they've been written by subject specialists in the issues under discussion. Therefore - when one sees what's being done - it's no wonder that one prefers to leave the discussion. Posted by Lexi, Monday, 9 April 2012 6:59:53 PM
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Lexi,
You only ever provide links to left wing opinion pieces. Try this for this topic: (Warning, it contains facts) http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/auditorgeneral-slams-government-over-australia-network-20120403-1w9pt.html Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 4:57:25 AM
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Shadow Minister, Lexi, DreamOn:
Although we all may mean well in our daily rant about the petty subject of politics, as it affects us, each and every one of us, we should be showing more concern at the sinister and very dark occurrences that are now accelerating across the globe! We are all unwittingly side-tracked from the REAL issues by our pitiful political system, which in all its glory is simply a play-tool for the bored and the introverted members of our society, who see personal politics as the easy road to instant power and wealth. These people are so into themselves that they achieve self-gratification from being able to formulate and enforce their own and their fellow member`s ill-formulated rules and regulations with the impunity offered by their status in society. We are living in a so-called democracy, ruled by a Monarch living in a foreign country, who it is alleged refuses to intervene in affairs of state (Australia) and passes the buck to the Governor General of Australia, who is allegedly unable to act "due to conflicts of interest" (Her Son-in-Law is a Minister) thus condoning questionable acts of bastardry against the people of Australia (The Carbon Tax). Whilst we are being side-tracked by all of this petty hoo-haa, there are forces afoot who are gradually putting in place their grand plan to dominate the world by the use of very undemocratic militarist methods of human enslavement, whilst the thinking people of the world are being bamboozled by these petty events that are occurring within our own country! Please people, open your eyes and read, read, read and accept that what is being foisted upon as "conspiracy theory" and "the rantings of the loony left" is actually the weapon that they use to denigrate and deny the disclosure of the truth! Posted by Crackcup, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 10:02:02 AM
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Dear SM,
I don't intend to have any more arguments with you as far as politics goes. You have your opinions and I shall leave you to enjoy them. Only because - I really think that arguing with you achieves nothing constructive - and I have better things to do with my time. I simply can't be bothered anymore - and I don't want to lower my standards - by trying to explain myself or my views to you - who I suspect is too set in his ways to change and refuses to achnowledge anything positive at all from another's point of view. I don't believe in continuing with exercises in futility. Dear Crackcup, Again, Thank You for being so honest and open in your views. I agree with most of them and shall certainly take on board what you're telling us. I must say - I'm quite impressed with your arguments. Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 11:44:33 AM
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Lexi,
You only ever have anything positive to say about Juliar, Labor and the greens, and only negative to say about Abbott, and the coalition, and you only ever quote opinion pieces from left wing commentators. You are even more one eyed than you claim me to be, as many of the links I provide are on news articles (many from the supposedly left of centre fairfax media) and from commentators from all persuasions. Posted by Shadow Minister, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 12:24:35 PM
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The reason for that of course is that the underpinning legislation and regulations may well make it quite reasonable for this to have taken so long.
That is not to say that I do not accept that there may be maladministration or similar, but simply claiming that there is does not make it so.
Likewise with your claim that the fact that there hasn't been a brief of evidence produced for the D.P.P. If the framework underpinning the statutory body provides for them to produce such a document then you may well have a point, but if not, then of course it does not.
As you have failed as do the LNP to substantiate your claims of incompetent time wasting, it does again appear that you are either ignorant or disingenuous.
The solution of course is to advocate for the specific necessary changes to the framework.
As for the LNP, if they are aware that it is to be expected that such cases pursuant to the FWA's framework will take as long as they do and continue to carry on about incompetence, then that in and of itself is a form of contempt of the law.
Here again though, as to exactly what constitutes criminality and how it applies to politicians is a matter for the law as it stands, and the fact that more aren't prosecuted is due to the fact, that like increased remuneration, the major parties are thick as thieves and do not wish to be held to account.
One case in point is Garret's involvement with the insulation debacle which led to deaths.
*CrackCup* the simple solution is not to vote for either of the mainstream parties, and give others a go, but unfortunately, most Australians are too stupid and bigoted to realise that, which of course ultimately, they will pay the price for.