Lexi,

Based on facts, please support your earlier comment that the federal government under Howard is responsible for the neglect of the urban public transport, which was the responsibility of the state labor government.

You can't because it goes against the facts that you claim your fantasies are based on.

And it is tipped that the NBN may well be yet another flop.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that puts them and their stuff ups into double figures. Not bad for a little more than four years.

What a joke they are.

For gods sake, call an election so we can toss these fools out, for good, I would suggest!

Dear SM,

You don't want proof. At least not the proof that I provide.
You accuse me of using "biased" sources - that don't agree
with your political inclinations. For example, I've
provided you in the past with the article written by Ian McAuley, "The Howard Years Were No Golden Age." Ian McAuley
a lecturer in public sector finance at the University of
Canberra and a fellow at the Centre for Policy Development -
gave an excellent summation of the Howard Years - citing
examples - both pros and cons. Yet
you accused him of bias - even though by any standards
his article was a balanced one. At the same time -
you don't see the
hypocrisy when you cite from the Murdoch Press and other
partisan media sources. It's for that reason that I
referred you to go
to any library - and get them to find sources for you that
you will be happy with. Now you again ask me for "proof."
I am beginning to doubt your comprehension skills.
Perhaps I should demand that you give me proof that you
have a brain. Because so far you have not shown a capacity
for logical thought. All it appears that your agenda is -
on this forum - is to spread the negativity of your
political party.

Until you present more balance in your posts you will
continue to receive an adverse reaction to your comments.

See you on another thread - and hopefully one with more
positivity.

Lexi,

That you would find an opinion piece in a far left news blog balanced shows how poor your comprehension skills are.

Ian happily shrugs off the measurements of fiscal management that most countries use i.e. balancing the books, record low unemployment and record economic growth, and claims "financial mismanagement" due to not intervening in the economy more. A first year economics student would be able to tell you the consequences of government intervention in times of "full" economic employment. Perhaps you should look it up.

Peter Van Onselen (who recently voted Labor) published an opinion piece scathing of this complete interference in an independent process, and compared it to the PM's refusal to intervene in the clearly dysfunctional FWA.

The auditor general's report was the most damning report on any government function in decades and said that it came close to actually breaking the law. Conroy if he had been in business would have been fired if not jailed.

I must admit I prefer people to back up their assertions of the time with concurrent facts too *Lexi*, however ...

..

Of course *Shadow* the fact that more politicians aren't locked up for their crimes is also of concern to me, but given that you have had plenty of time to correct some of these problems in times of guvment, one can but assume that you have not done so in the past as you yourselves do not wish to be held accountable either.

No surprise there though is there?

Of course, that doesn't stop you sabre rattling in public, even if it is somewhat disingenuous does it?

As to the FWA matter, like the OAIC processes they are likely to be largely operating within the confines of their legal framework, so why don't you tell us where exactly in your opinion the framework is deficient, and then what you intend to do about it? After all, clearly these problems aren't limited to these 2 departments in question are they?

How can you allege maladministration/dysfunctionality without having read the report and also not being aware of the relevant time periods taken at each stage and why?

Or do you have a piece of legal advice that you would like to share with us?