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My Grand Father didn't fight for nothing

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I didn't realise that I was defending anyone.
Merely questioning a few things.
And trying to make a few points about arguing
in a logical manner instead of making
unreasonable generalisations because no one
likes, or supports an abusive, illogical or
weak debater.

Of course there are people in
our society who will try to abuse the system
and people who are fundamentalists from all
persuasions. We have laws that need to be adhered
to by everyone. I'm not questioning that.
However, I don't believe in taring groups of
people with the one brush - no matter who they
are. I take people as I find them. On an individual
basis. And as for politicians - I vote for party
policies and platforms that make sense to me.

See you guys on another thread.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 5:24:51 PM
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All this BS about ANZAC day is designed to keep us arguing and fighting and not looking at the real issues.Our media does this all the time.Keep the debt serfs fighting while they screw us even more.Divide and conquer.

All of you suckers have fallen for the trap yet again.The Banksters create all this debt money from nothing! They are counterfeiting your productivity and giving it back to you as debt.

They've been in this scam together since 1913 with the instigation of the US Federal Reserve.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 5:27:31 PM
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Well, sucker or not, my respect for the Anzacs will remain forever.

No one is going to take that from me, and many others for that matter.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 27 March 2012 8:46:44 PM
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Lexi, not sure who that was aimed at, for sure not one word I posted here referred to you.
I standby my every comment, you must allow for all views.
Not agree with some,for sure but understand not much thought is behind some.
And even less understanding.
I am aware,and unconcerned, that my thought process on SOME refugee/migration, and the policy of Multi Culture not assimilation, while retaining ones own culture brands me.
I am far from concerned, other than with the inability of some,to truly see Europe's problems as a result of being far more troubled than us in this matter.
A report such as this however is a waste and a danger.
So very many red necks ,even those who do not under stand that is what they are, launch in to heated discussions and pure hate.
Look hate me, but from every nation in the world and every religion, come great people, and great future Australians.
I refuse to see ANY creed,do as this Phoney report says,and am sure, just as loose cannons post here,a few, very few,want us to cut our culture to give up our past.
To my detractors, free speech is on any subject.
To those who find evidence in this report other than its producers are White Anglo Saxon dills?
Joseph Gobbles used things like this, and he has fools who unable to think,still put junk out ,that they do not even under stand is counter productive.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 4:39:11 AM
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the mental capacity to discuss things like an adult.
Lexi,
Looking at reality through rose-coloured glasses does not do a thing for anyone, it's plain counterproductive. Then, when the rose colours fade, sticking one's head in the sand definitely doesn't do anything for anyone except the exploiters. I prefer to cop bad consequences through my own mistakes or stupidity rather than someone else's.
Posted by individual, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 6:52:43 AM
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Dear Belly,

The post was not directed at you. And I fully
understand what you and others are saying.
I may not always agree with you and others-
but I defiitely
respect your right to your opinion and to the
opinions of others. I expect the same respect
for my opinion. I do not expect personal attacks
however from anyone. And the problem sometimes
occurs on this forum that our discussions do
degenerate into unnecessary personal attacks.

We can disagree on things - but we don't have to
resort to slanging matches - which I've said time
and time again.

I don't "hate" anyone. And I have
the utmost respect for most of the posters on this
forum. As for you - you I consider a friend. And a
lovely bloke.

Dear Individual,

I'm going to sound like a broken record here because
I've said it so often. If the world consisted simply
of some self-evident reality that everyone perceived
things in exactly the same way, there might be no
disagreement among observers. But the truth of the
matter is that what we see in the world is not
determined by what exists "out there."

It's shaped by what our past experience has prepared us
to see and by what we consciously or unconsciously
want to see. Inevitably, then, we're all guilty of
some measure of bias - the tendency, often unconscious,
to interpret facts according to our own values.

There is a tendency on so many people's parts to think
that their way is the right way and that people who
disagree with them are bad. I'm not sure how we in
this country ever degenerated into such a mass
disrespect for the rights of others to hold opinions
different from our own. What does matter is that we
renew respectful dialogue with those who don't agree
with us rather than that we keep slavishly
congratulating those who have the wisdom to see things
our way. It's one thing to think that we're on the right
path but quite another to think that ours is the only
path.

Cheers.
Posted by Lexi, Wednesday, 28 March 2012 10:35:48 AM
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