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Posted by Jayb, Friday, 23 March 2012 8:15:02 AM
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Mac,
"As a rule, democratic nations do not go to war with other democratic nations, in fact I can't think of any instance when that has occurred". There were a couple of big ones a while back that spring to mind - WW1 and WW2. Germany was indeed a democratic republic. If you also care to look you'll find that virtually all despotic regimes resulted from the overthrow of previously democratic ones - including Iraq and Iran in particular - and in both of those cases as a result of actions instigated by the "free West" for it's own commercial interests. Posted by rache, Friday, 23 March 2012 11:54:27 AM
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Ah Ha! Don't bother with a reply to my request Arjay. You obviously received your CEC email before I received mine. I can see where you are getting your information now. Thanks anyway.
Rache: Germany was indeed a democratic republic. Yes it was & it alowed itself to be persuaded, little by little, to relinquish that Democracy in favour of Nationalism. Hitler, a very smart evil man with very smart evil friends with an evil agenda. Much like the CEC, I'm afraid Arjay. Remember the old addage, "If it sounds to good to be true, then it is." Anyway have fun at the Rally. Try not to get arrested. Posted by Jayb, Friday, 23 March 2012 3:46:16 PM
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A small, but telling, omission Arjay.
>>The Citizen's Electoral Council is neither left or right.It deals with the truth as does Ron Paul,Webster Tarpley,Neils Harritt,Alex Jones,Max Keiser,Gerald Celente,Judge Andrew Napolitano and many others.<< You failed to mention the poster-child of the movement, Lyndon LaRouche. Why was that? Are you a little chary of aligning yourself with such a noisy, unprepossessing character? http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/larouche/main.htm Odd. You're not normally that sensitive. Posted by Pericles, Friday, 23 March 2012 7:17:27 PM
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Pericles: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/cult/larouche/main.htm
Interesting, I hadn't been to that one. It explains the history of the organization more fully. thanks. I look at all the kookie sites, There are some strange sites with some strange peoplewith strange ideas. Yank Conspiracy sites are good too. I read a lot of the kookie magazines, Nexus & New Dawn are a couple of good ones, if you want a good laugh sometimes. They're a strange mix of fact & fiction & some, I must admit, some very interesting theories. It's the real kookie ones you have to watch. You never know which way their people will jump. ;-) Arjay, come back, please. Posted by Jayb, Friday, 23 March 2012 8:44:12 PM
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Jayb,
The Germans didn't relinquish their democracy. It remained in place throughout the war. What they did give up however, was their willingness to question what was presented to them as as the truth. Like today, most just blindly accepted what was told to them by their leaders. The Nazis were no different from any political group with an agenda. It's been like this for practically every conflict throughout human history. Behind all the self-righteous window dressing is somebody simply trying to make money. When a 2% return is not enough, the corporations follow the profits from war and the people and soldiers follow the flag. "Naturally the common people don't want war, but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag people along whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorsip or a parliament or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can be always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country". - Reich-Marshal Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg Trials Posted by rache, Sunday, 25 March 2012 12:42:22 AM
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I don't have a hidden agenda. My only motive is to understand what's happening, why & what for. I offer information, which I know to be correct. If I'm wrong & you correct me, I can accept that. I will correct information which I know to be wrong as well. I ask for clarification of things I don't understand. That is all. As with my inquiry as to what Orgnization is organizing the protest & who in particular are the Protestors targeting? I think that is a resonable request. I live in Queensland not Sydney & I was unaware of any protest. No secret agenda.
I looked at the request & it did seem a little abrupt for some of the PC pundits, I suppose. It's the Platoon Sig. coming out in me. So I'll ask again.
Arjay, may I please have the information I asked for so I can reach an informed opinion of the planned protest.