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Another day of Shame and Infamy!
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Posted by Crackcup, Thursday, 15 March 2012 11:44:54 AM
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Storm, meet teacup.
>>It remains a "Day of Infamy" in the history of Australia!<< I read this post three times, but all I could think at the end of it was... Kenneth Williams. "Infamy! Infamy! They've all got it in for me!" http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-446513/Carry-On-quip-voted-funniest-liner.html Posted by Pericles, Thursday, 15 March 2012 5:35:23 PM
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Pericles:
Obviously you are not living anywhere near the vicinity of a "Nuclear Waste Depository", and so feel free to ridicule anyone who may show concern about this issue. I seem to sense a slightly brown odour wafting from your statement and I must remind you that a lot of non-Indigenous people work and reside in the Northern Territory,...these same people may ultimately be at risk as well as the Indigenous landowners and residents. Please exercise some sense of humanity towards this situation, as none of us have any choice in determining what race or colour we are born to! Posted by Crackcup, Thursday, 15 March 2012 5:53:06 PM
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Posted by Crackcup, Thursday, 15 March 2012 5:53:06 PM
" ... Please exercise some sense of humanity towards this situation, as none of us have any choice in determining what race or colour we are born to! ... " Ah yes, *Pericles* the champion of democracy, arts and the literature. Curiously, on most occassions, he is one of the better quality commentators here at OLO i.m.o, though being human and flawed like the rest of, does have his/her less than flattering moments. Perhaps he's on the grog and in a mood, and genuinely feeling funny? Only he can tell us though, one presumes. My wife is oft to scold me for deliberately hurting people's feelings, so, I am perhaps no better, however ... .. I do not know the facts of this issue, but perhaps the location for the dump in question was selected, in addition to any other reasons, based on its geological stability and lack of other resources? .. It is perhaps little consultation, but my recommendation is not to vote for either of the main stream parties. Also, were it my choice, which clearly it is not, and if the BlakFellas wanted it, in addition to sacred sites (which would also include Blood Lands) I would make a Treaty with you and give you the northern territory in its entirety. All things said and done though, consideration of their wants would be a primary one. .. Of course, even if that were done, would that necessarily exclude different groups entering into their own arrangements? .. I further note the words of one of the *Greens* today in relation to "informed legal consent" and am left wandering whether it has any relevance to the question at hand? Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 15 March 2012 7:20:28 PM
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It is not the stuff in the ground we should worry about ,it is the silent,tasteless Caesium and Strontium,that is accumulating in or air and food chain that will destroy our bodies and genetic integrity.Fukushima,Chernobyl,Nukes tests,US depleted Uranium etc all accumulate and stay with us for millions of yrs.
The Labor Party does not control Aust.When Obama came here last yr ,he told Julia to sell Uranium to India,because it looked like moving towards China and Russia.Obama gets told what to do by the Banking Military Industrial Complex. Posted by Arjay, Friday, 16 March 2012 6:03:36 AM
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There you go Crackcup – there's nothing to be concerned about, the proposal would seem to have Arjay's seal of approval… "It is not the stuff in the ground we should worry about..."
A bit of perspective about radiation risks wouldn't go astray – though I admit when I had those two melanomas excised it never occurred to me to say, "Thank you Chernobyl, Fu k-u-shima…" I was grateful to not be one of the 1200 or so Australians a year who die from such cancers and afterwards to be able to say anything at all. But overselling and exaggerating real and perceived problems won't ever 'solve' them. For example, claims of them staying with us for millions of years is a bit rich when the environmentally worst isotopes of caesium-137 and strontium-90 have half lives of 30.07 And 28.8 years respectively. (To cope with strontium-94 though avoid it for a couple of multiples of its half life of 75 seconds) I do understand the psychology of the "not in my backyard mindset" – at its simplest, it's how hundreds of millions of us car owners delude ourselves that we are not polluting the air we breathe because the engine exhaust comes out the back of the car and not through the dashboard air vents! By the way you forgot to mention in starting this thread in whose backyards nuclear waste is currently stored. Just wondering? Posted by WmTrevor, Friday, 16 March 2012 8:04:49 AM
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It is beyond all sensibility to even consider a Nuclear Waste Facility at Muckaty Station in the Northern Territory.
Aquiescence to this Bill has been achieved by simply nominating certain Indigenous persons as being the rightful traditional owners, and waving a fistful of dollars ( allegedly $10 million or so ) under their noses, to buy their vote accordingly. The nominated representation was obviously very, very selective to attain the required result.
The long term risks and damage to the community associated with this sort of establishment, should the inevitable leak occur, does not bear thinking about!....but maybe this is part of the grand plan to remove the perceived problem of the Indigenous people, many of whom can no longer be pushed aside and trampled over!
The NT Chief Minister Paul Henderson is opposed to the whole deal and believes that the rights of all Australians have been trampled on, and he is Labor, so what does that tell us?
As an alternative to Muckaty and IF the moral conscience of this country decerees that "because we mine and supply Uranium to overseas
interests" then instead of Muckaty Station in the NT, the problem should be "grudgingly" established in the area of Maralinga in SA, where the British and Australian Governments exploded test Nuclear Bombs, and which is now more or less permanently irradiated and thus uninhabitable for man or beast!
Whatever does occur in the future, the business of accepting Nuclear Waste from participating countries worldwide is an exceedingly retrograde step, a step that the people of Australia will be forced to pay the consequences for, for many generations to come.
It remains a "Day of Infamy" in the history of Australia!