Belly, I was referring to the gung-ho culture that exists within US militarism. From the top down they have no understanding of the people they wish to pacify, their beliefs or their culture. They try to exert a master race mentality, seeing all other as some kind of inferior peasant. They are so wrapped up in their own propaganda they actually believe it. The average American genuinely can not understand why half the world wants to blow them to pieces, they have the "shucks we'ed da good guys" mentality, "everyone should love us." At the base level of US militarism for the blockheads its a case of little boys with big toys, very dangerous people. These guys are no more than the US attack dogs, that is their function.
It concerns me when a Labor man, such as yourself, would say "I without reserve am a fan of the USA." I recall the slogan "All the way with LBJ." I much prefer the true progressives with an independent belief to the tied old Labor mob who dutifully fall in behind Uncle Sam at every call.

Well I'll leave you all with this thought.

We'll have to wait and see what emerges from any inquiry into the events of Sunday.

However whatever the Amercians may or may not have done to the Afghans will pale into insigificance compared to what the Taliban has done to them in the past and will do to them in the future. I have a feeling that educated women in Afghanistan will weep when the Americans leave. Their situation is bad now. It will become infintely worse.

But I still think we and the US should leave - preferrably today. Afghan women will have to fend for themselves.

steven
add this to your dumbing down education by oil topic
do you count hash oil/

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4199886,00.htmlits

but back tro this toopic
funny..if it one guy..one nutter
all this fuss

if its one state
nuthin
http://uruknet.com/?p=m86433&hd=&size=1&l=e

but back to this topic
red flag or black flag..or faulse flag?

http://12160.info/forum/topics/false-flag-alert-afghanistan-taliban-vow-revenge-for-civilians?xg_source=activity

do we need top know the reason
nuthing justifies killing

[the lie of a just war..is just a way
to kill just them...or excuse to kill lots more than 'them'
if they dare attack one of us..[even if it is one of us doing it to rally the cause..[moss t sad]

muddy the waters
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/08/exposing-kony-2012-phony-youth-movement-promotes-military-presence-africa-92622/

raise topics on other topic[like china]
activly delete yet others...ignore the 'sign's

see the minions..in that dark place
surrounded by the ring..of fire..
rejoice

solar flares as us and them polar opposities do massive battle
hoping the earthy battles on earth bring their final end time
[final shipment of vile]
http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/2012/03/12/sunspot-1429-releases-2-mclass-flares-94371/

witless the affects right here of the vile influx
http://www.alternet.org/module/printversion/148016

[the next sol spot
the next power/..pole shift]

http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2012/03/stop-netanyahu-2012.html
http://americansjourney.blogspot.com/2012/03/musings-on-murders-complications-on.html

very important
http://atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/NC13Ak01.html

Yes, very important. I'm intrigued by Dagan taking a sane view in high circles. To convince the US to de-escalate militarism over Iran would be quite something for reason over jingoism.

Oh dear though. Do some people here not feel the death of innocent civilians at the hands of the US military to be deeply shameful whether or not the killer was alone? This is trivialised by mentions of Taliban actions as if they were some kind of justification. Tit-for-tat violence is no kind of civilised philosophy.

Paul1405,
That's a load of garbage, while no fan of War or U.S imperialism I have many online acquaintances who are serving in the U.S Miiltary.
Combat troops are not "meatheads" or "gung ho", in my experience they are always bright, intelligent, educated and thoroughly normal people, rear echelon troops, the ones who do not fight can be downright awful and do have a bad reputation, remember only about 20% of an army actually goes into battle.
I'll bet you a dollar this latest shooter was on "Anti Depressants", just like all the "lone wolves" we read about, Tim McVeigh, Jared Loughner, Dylan Klebold, Seung-Hi Cho and the rest.

The story that a group of drunken US soldiers carried out the Afghan massacre appears to have faded. Even Al Jazeera has stopped carrying it.

All the signs point to an act of madness by a single individual. The probability that the official version is correct is growing.

Which raises a question.

What are we to make of the claims that a group was involved?

Were the people making the claims lying? Were they mistaken? Were they infected by group hysteria?