Paul, TBC, SOME of what you say is true, of EVERY political party.
Factions, a glue that allowed party's to exist, ensures at least some are weeded out.
It is hugely funny, that minority Factions, blame Majority's, for not letting minority views win every battle.
Make no mistake,I am 100% ALP and not just proudly but pleased with our path, as a party.
I target change, and convict, power brokers, with the current mess.
I however TBC charge you and Paul, with not truly understanding me.
I want my growing improving new Labor, to stop folk like me hurting it.
By taking the need away, by stopping such as Gillards control freaks running my party over a cliff.
LABOR!take a look, if Rudd had never existed, can you look me in the eye and promise Gillard would not still be unloved and unwanted?
Is it so bad of me to say my party,full of talent and good policy's is being miss used.
In my dreams a day comes that all Branch's are open, that the average age in them is 40, that 20 and 30 year olds run them.
Playing cards with my party right now if Conservatives change to Turnbull Labor will instantly drop ten more points.
Personality's, no true rule but a third vote based on it.

Belly, Agrub resigned, and the NSW right faction immediately went into overdrive as to who they would install in his place. I'd like to see O'Farrell do an 'Albert Field', that would put wind up them. Will there be an consultation with the rank and file membership I think not.
You say: "I want my growing improving new Labor, to stop folk like me hurting it." Here is their big chance to practice some democracy, again I think not. The Labor bus is charging along at 100mph towards that cliff top, and there is no brake, over go the whole sorry bunch, into oblivion. P/s can you make room for Abbotts mob in the back of that bus?

Paul1405, Albert Field? Don't you worry about that!

The ALP need no help to get an Albert Field, they'll select their own if they go for Mundine or KKK.

Whatever the size of his ego and sense of self importance, you'd have to say the rightwing Carr would be an amusing addittion to the red seats.

At least he can think on his feet.

And, unlike most politicians, he's honest about his lack of 'faith', and for that alone, he deserves a spot.

Yes Blue, like like Gillard, Carr can think on his feet, & come up with a quick answer.

However from his time in NSW you'd have to admit, that also like Gillard, no matter what they are thinking about, their answer is always a lemon.

TBC What about if Labor appoint Peter Slipper to the House of Lords. As long as they let him dress up as Napoleon or Julius Caesar Pete will vote for anything Julie wants. After all he is a man of principle. Just don't tell him its called the Senate, remember House of Lords.

Hasbeen my mate our combats have been many but united we stand, on day Lilly's!
I have learned today you are a member of the lost faction of the Conservatives a splinter group of the far right Joe section.
While amused by my Green combative Friends Paul and TBC they are in a faction that is indeed a fraction, it would benefit from introduction of a new faction/idea.
But as Labor fled the we never want to win mob, it is nice to know they mill around in the Greens fenced off, from reality, paddock.
Carr can not be blamed for Gillards fibs, its all the Lady's own work.
She came from the very left, but on a pogo stick, one she has never learned to control.
She hops from left to right and some times forgets she is riding it, while making policy's, hence peoples forum and cash for clunkers.
IF she believes in putting the past behind her, or if she is just trying to sell herself,latter more likely, she will appoint Kevin Rudd as Minister for foreign affairs.