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where are you/when your not here?

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Not sure it will let me post.
server admits we can not use e mail, for days, but says nothing about no service, near at all.
yes know about the sun spot cycle, it is 11 years but varies, big p-art of my radio hobby but unlikely to be behind my troubles
seems few of us post other places I am missing my news, from wide source, lets see if I am back or still in trouble getting here
Posted by Belly, Friday, 3 February 2012 11:33:53 AM
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Yesterday, upon the stair,
I met a man who wasn’t there
He wasn’t there again today
I wish, I wish he’d go away...
Posted by Houellebecq, Friday, 3 February 2012 1:08:56 PM
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i wasnt here
and i wasnt there

but enough of what i aint
its the painting of a fuller picture..that breaks steadfast restraint

[i ran out of cyber/credit..surfing the web.;cause i was bored]
then found..then..i was more bored than before..
everything seems such a chore

i noted the tv reception on nine was intermitant..[sunspot?]
and still trying to find what digetalised/doubles..[channel's].
there are in the dig-et'al realm..

anyhow now to catch up
form thoughts and voice opinions
but where to start..what will get me out of bed..to say

anyhow..
nuthin left to say
hope ya all..have a really nice/day
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 9:45:17 AM
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reluctant to branch off the topic?
thats why it was so open..in its beginning

i like belly replies...as it allows expantion of concept basics
[see how few email's in my inbox...now bellies on line acces is diminished]

without others inputs
i find i have little to say

so go to my other web sites
http://whatreallyhappened.com/

get angry about something
and search for a topic on that topic
[as people know..many of my starter topics dont get put up]
and im fine with that..thats just how things go...systems are great
as long as they dont get too much biased...

[like my other web site..now is run by athiests..
who delete my god posts..as soon as i post it
indeed got me banned

so i left there

but here is slowing down
so search despiritly for another 'here'
in case this site goes there too...

life runs in cycles
but which cycle..to give energy to
and which to ignore..and let die..

think why we are all..just too tired..to post
its just words..not lobbied adgenda..to get govt licence
Posted by one under god, Friday, 10 February 2012 7:50:27 AM
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researching/the greece bond-rate[over 100%]
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=114x90512

the value..of a note with..12 months to maturity
that has a yield of 108%..is currently selling..for somewhere around 42 cents..on the dollar.

If the yield..on the 1 year
started at around 10% and it's now over 100%
mean's this bond..is trading at less
then 10 cents on the dollar..or thereabouts?

Who would pay 42 cents on the dollar..for Greek debt
that's probably headed for default..in days or even hours?

[reply]..no, it doesn't.

If similar US paper..was sold at a 10% yield..then it would price just above $900 per bond...If it went to a 50% yield..the bonds would be bid down to about $667.

Here's a bond calculator..that will bear this out;

http://www.moneychimp.com/calculator/bond_yield_calculator.htm

Make sure the "Par Value"..field reads "1000".
In the "Coupon" field type "0" (zero)
and in the "Years to Maturity" field type "1" (one)

In the.."Current Price" field,
type.."480"..and you'll find the yield..will work/out
to/be..around 108%

9.Very interesting.
Thanks,..I ran it..through on the calculator.

Ok so basically
It's double..or nothing.

I can't believe anyone..would take that bet
with Greece..on the verge of default.

I'd want odds of at least 5 or 10 to 1.

At 2 to 1 odds
I might as well go to Vega.. and bet on black.

At least my odds are 50/50.

Maybe investors..are betting that..in the event of a default
the bond holder..will only take a 50% haircut..and they'll be even.

Either the German central bank..will step in,the US Federal Reserve will do something,..England will back-stop them.....""[with 3/4 trillion pounds]

the 50% haircut..is a possible alternative...That would mean instead of these being redeemed at par,..they are redeemed at half that.

In that case,had you bought some of these notes..at 42% or 48% of par or whatever,..you would still come/out..ahead,..albeit by only a few percentage points,..not by 108.

To briefly expand/on..that idea,..those
that are buying..these up..at that big yield will do fine...Those that paid much more..for them will lose.

source/for the article and the graf:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=GGGB1YR:IND
Yield on Greek one year tops 130%

now..138%
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=GGGB1YR:IND
Posted by one under god, Friday, 10 February 2012 8:21:10 AM
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