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The Forum > General Discussion > Wilkie feels the sting of yet another Gillard betrayal.

Wilkie feels the sting of yet another Gillard betrayal.

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the perpetual suggesting of others over Abbott is such a juvenile attempt by ALP supporters to cause disunity amongst the ranks of the conservatives.
For the sake of the future of Australia I hope conservatives out-intelligence the left & things will go right again.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 22 January 2012 12:00:38 AM
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Rache, Tony Abbott has one thing on his side and that's his experience under what many believe was our most successful PM.

At the end of the day, we have to ask our selves at what point is enough, enough.

Furthermore, do you and your supporters honestly think TA could be any worse than JG?

As for this government, it is obvious now that JG is beyond her depth, so, labor must either dump her, or call an election and let the people decide who they want as PM.

After all, that is how a democracy ishoukd work, is it not.
Posted by rehctub, Sunday, 22 January 2012 6:35:57 AM
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Lexi eat no crow, stand firmly in your own shoes your own views even when, like now they are against mine.
Stay able to learn and progress by hearing all in put then changing if you wish your views.
You will eat the best, while Shadow Minister eats the humble pie.
Quick word for Indy.you are in over your head Turnbull will not take over due to ALP actions.
Your inability to see Abbott as even his own party has opened their eyes to is coming back to haunt you.
SM CONSIDER THE BLOKE
Thread after thread condemning independents
The same condemning the ALP for even considering poker machine reform.
See the terms of Wilkies demand, know I support reforms.
But see this independent,who won conservative preferences to gain his seat.
Wants to blackmail
To get policy's CONSERVATIVES do not want, passed,
Know that, on both sides of the house, not enough votes exist to pass it.
A PM bound by SM laws to not change is a concrete statue of no worth.
Gillard is trying to get laws that will pass SM is trying to untie the knot the has himself in.
A policy he does not want from a man he does not like a PM he cannot be honest if talking about.
SM unaware what the final out come may be,will be lucky to eat the crumbs the crow drops.
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 22 January 2012 6:50:24 AM
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rehctub,

What these Labor tragics forget it that amongst Liberals is very popular, mostly because he has been instrumental for showing up Juliar's lying manipulative nature, and Labor's incompetence.

Juliar's name is now Mud and she cannot win the next election as no one will believe any promises she makes.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Sunday, 22 January 2012 7:26:45 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

You asked me, "Are you prepared to eat crow now?"

I'm not sure why you would ask me that. This is a
complex problem - and politics should not enter
into this equation.

Most opinion polls show that the public
supports tighter gaming machine regulations, including
mandatory pre-commitment. Nor are the big clubs
themselves particularly popular, outside a few deep
pockets of support in the outer suburbs of Sydney and
Brisbane.

Of course - the PM's cautiousness gives Tony Abbott and
his supporters yet another opportunity to portray the
Gillard Government as sneaky and untrustworthy, an
opportunity they are seizing with their customary
alacrity. No surprises there.
It's all too easy to characterise the revised
timetable for mandatory pre-commitment as simply another
Gillard backdown, or indeed a double-cross.

However: As articles on the web tell us -

"The devastating social impact of poker machine addiction
is well understood. Experts point out to us that
clamping down on the rights of vulnerable people to
gamble away their life savings and ruin their family's
finances may indeed be a restriction of their liberty.
But it surely is a justifiable restriction."

"Mandatory pre-commitment has already been trailed in South
Australia, in Queensland and in the Canadian province
of Nova Scotia. It may not be a silver-bullet but all the
trials showed a significant number of gamers used the
pre-commitment schemes to monitor and limit their daily
expenditure. The Canadian trials in particular showed a
reduction in total expenditure by gamers after the
introduction of the scheme. No wonder the big clubs are
worried about a similar scheme in Australia."

The PM may be quite correct in being cautious.
She has the most difficult job of any PM has had -
a hung Parliament means you have to negotiate everything.
Politics is the art of compromise, and the PM is playing
it extremely well.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:39:20 AM
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Dear Belly,

Thanks for your concern.
I appreciate it very much.
In all these issues, the choice is between the
broader interests of the nation, and the narrow
self-interest of industries and lobby groups
that stand to lose out because of necessary reforms.
One party tries to achieve something, the other
is only capable of finger-pointing.

The PM could wedge Tony Abbott nicely now by putting
the legislation in front of him and daring him to
vote no.
Posted by Lexi, Sunday, 22 January 2012 10:49:48 AM
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