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The Forum > General Discussion > Wilkie feels the sting of yet another Gillard betrayal.

Wilkie feels the sting of yet another Gillard betrayal.

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Lexi,

http://www.pc.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0011/95708/25-appendixc.pdf

Actually read it and then try and tell me that it was a success. All the trials were voluntary, and the take up was less than 1% in Queensland. The results were for punters that wanted to try it, and hardly representative, and even then didn't stop anyone that really wanted to gamble. The impact on the casinos was also out of proportion.

The only trial that was relatively wide spread and closest to what Wilkie was proposing, and made no difference to problem gambling.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 23 January 2012 8:48:42 PM
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Good morning Rechtub, your self confidence,in opinions is miss placed.
Under standing lost in a wilderness of your own making
My regards.
Andrew Wilkie, lets look at him.
Independent, former Greens candidate.
Former public servant who took John Howard on.
He finished third in the seat of Dennison[in Tasmania Rechtub]
Labor and Liberal preferences put him in the seat.
*few truly understand our preferential voting system, even less wanted him elected from third*
He, Brant, the Greens single lower house seat holder, Melbourne Port is it?, in Victoria Rechtub.
Elected on, yes CONSERVATIVE preferences.
Katter, Windsor, and Oakshot.
Talked to both leaders, IF ONLY! Abbott had won!
We would be talking about his changing policy's to suit changing events.
We have seen how very cuddles om Rechtub Shadow Minister and other find independents.
WILKIE? nice clean bloke, NOT! demanded yes demanded his way or no way.
THE BILL PASS BY MAY, it never could, after trying Gillard did you know, NO LEADER OF ANY PARTY COULD GET IT PAST ANY HOUSE.
The news this morning, remember Abbott said he would then would not now will turn the refugees around at sea.
YOU DO KNOW, we all do it can not take place? Indonesia and the world is stunned a western leader is threatening to MURDER REFUGEES.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 5:36:18 AM
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Belly, you are simply digging yourself an even deeper hole mate.

Why not simply just admit that she is a lier and, that the only reason she did the dodgy deal was in utter desperation to hold on to office.

The people dropped her like a school bag, some 85 seats back to 72 odd, is an utter flogging, yet, unwilling to face reality, she did the dodgy deal and has done nothing but caused more pain and wasted more billions, all in her quest to be the first madam PM.

Now as for your diversion, typical of one who is loosing an argument , these three ind are a disgrace as they are sitting back allowing this debacle of a government to run riot over our nations future.

At least now Wilki has withdrawn, or will he, it's now up to the others to do the honorable thing and take this nation to the polls.

I wouldn't waste my vote on any of them, as they, like many pollies, are out of touch with the real world, evidence being in their support for the worlds largest carbon tax.

So back to the topic belly, why did she do the unworkable deal if not to deceive the people?

Care to answer that without trying to insult my intelligence or my knowledge this time!
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 6:00:59 AM
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Does anyone else think Julia knew this was coming back in December when they did the deal with Slipper. I can't stand Gillard but I will give her credit for being strategic. Liars need to be cunning. calculating and manipulative to succeed.

Just on another quick note... has Julia had a serious makeover, she looked 10 years younger on the news lat night.
Posted by sbr108, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 7:38:21 AM
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Dear SM,

You are grabbing at straws. I've made it quite clear
in my previous post that mandatory pre-commitment
is no silver bullet. However, the Canadian trials,
in particular, showed a reduction in total expenditure
by gamers after the introduction of the scheme.

The current deal that's on the table is
a delayed introduction to mandatory pre-commitment
slipping out to 2016, and only after a "full trial,"
of the measures in a sample jurisdiction like the ACT.

The PM is doing the best she can under difficult circumstances
for gambling reform. You may not like what she does -
but if it helps problem gamblers - just a little - she
would have achieved much more than you or the party you support
has been able to do. Doing nothing is not an alternative.
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 10:26:08 AM
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Rechtub I truly
Honestly
Think she did not lie.
You make it extremely hard to be civil, in saying ,every time I am being deceived or trying to deceive you.
However IF you think she lied, IF you can ignore the back flips of Abbott ,Howard, and many others.
Then I rest easy, in the privacy of the voting booth you are likely, by mistake, to vote LABOR.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 24 January 2012 11:22:06 AM
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