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Posted by pelican, Wednesday, 4 January 2012 10:26:57 PM
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Pelican, it was my understanding that the low skilled were the only ones effected by work choices.
When I was a kid starting out, no skills meant you had to work longer hours to make do. Then, along came family assistance, which also brought with it, dishonesty from workers and bosses alike. One could then work their 38 hrs for a low wage and claim assistance for the balance. I think one of governments motives behind increasing the minimum wage is the fact that it takes these workers wages beyond that welfare mark, and that's where the government has got it wrong. It is their role to support low income earners, not businesses. Let's face it, $23 per hour for holding a stop go sign is a bit rich. Try and get this wage in the likes of America. Our system simply can't continue to afford the high wages and we either accept that, or perish. BTW, this won't effect me, so I am not bias here. Family assistance, whether you agree with it or not, should be governments problem, not employers. Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 5 January 2012 5:51:24 AM
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the empty shops[and factories]..speak for themselves
[as does the loss of pensions] http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/293243/Pensions-in-crisis-as-funds-collapse tubber's./quote..""I think one of governments motives..behind increasing the minimum wage..is the fact that it takes these workers wages..beyond that welfare mark,"" if workers need govt top-up..[welfare] after working 4 days..[thats a business subsidy] http://electronicintifada.net/blog/ali-abunimah/while-america-shuts-down-fire-houses-cuts-infant-nutrition-us-subsidizes-israel better full dole and no work..than slave work subsidised by govt grant ""and that's where the government..has got it wrong."" too right http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/jewish-groups-get-most-money-from-federal-security-grants/article_e3b8efb8-f2a9-53af-97bb-de25d66f0a6b.html#ixzz1iMfQXfMP bailing out capitalists bring worker over poverty levels lol we agree govt larges to big busines bonus..has gone too far http://dailybail.com/home/how-to-forge-a-clients-signature-and-other-lessons-from-insi.html ""When I was a kid starting out,..no skills meant you had to work longer hours..to make do."" you fail to regonise..that cleaners have skilLs TOO AS MUCH AS A BUTCHER..KNOWING HOW TO CUT MEAT..NOT HIS ARM or insurance industries..knowing if its not clean..your broke! ""Then,along came family assistance,..which also brought with it, dishonesty...from workers and bosses alike.""' bosses was the after-thought right" so all govt asistance is dishonest? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4P2O8UjQeU or just some of it..the crumbs..that go to the poor if they beg..[and work for nuthing [less than welfare] http://dailybail.com/home/60-minutes-on-medicare-fraud-a-60-billion-crime.html YOUR utopia http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=17169 ""One could then work..their 38 hrs for a low wage..and claim assistance..for the balance."" lol two masters..when we only need one! one [poor]..tax paying worker..[paying non wage tax..[income tax]..working for the other.. running a busines.. via a tax free trust..to get rich is corperate welfare govt should give no money to business indeed business earn income...[proffit made without value adding] wages isnt income you pay tax to get welfare[and work for free] when the income earned by the boss...goes into the trust tax free thats nuts http://www.freep.com/article/20120103/NEWS01/120103049/1001/rss01 Posted by one under god, Thursday, 5 January 2012 8:00:33 AM
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WE AGREE!
""It is their role..to support low income earners,..not businesses.!"".. http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=621626 ""Our system"" http://poorrichards-blog.blogspot.com/2012/01/theres-war-on-free-speech-and-free.html your capitalist..system...""simply can't continue to afford..the high wages..and we either accept that,..or perish."" you quit why cant we? [cause you got extra cash we just got the dole..you got the full proffit* from your meat shops we get the dole...and now got free time...just like you but you now gotta protect ya cash cause its time to pay the piper ""BTW,..this won't effect me,..so I am not bias here."" http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/293243/Pensions-in-crisis-as-funds-collapse ""Family assistance,"" your all going to be on it soon http://members.beforeitsnews.com/story/1576/724/Keiser_Gold,_Silver_Markets_Shattered...Run_on_Comex:_No_Real_Inventory..._Trading_bullion_100_to_1.html ""whether you agree..with it or not"", http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGDisyWkIBM ""should be governments problem,..not employers."" http://www.theagitator.com/2011/12/23/the-new-professionalism-17/ yep big money is onto it http://milwaukeestory.com/index.php/2012/01/02/romneys-top-contributer-goldman-sachs-ron-pauls-us-army-346/ http://www.votefraud.org/how_a_private_company_counts_our_votes.htm http://www.thelandesreport.com/NewHampshirePrimary.htm This is from 2008..where Black Box..voting found that Ron Paul had received 30 votes..in this township..but by the time it got to the tabulation center,..the "official" form showed zero! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=170_1200019114&comments=1 put them capitalists..on the dole seize back..their govt gifts [*]IDEA[*] everyone repay's...*all govt assistance [bring back..*death-duties] and tax..*trusts..[double] Posted by one under god, Thursday, 5 January 2012 8:01:10 AM
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Bazz, I think the US has a similar problem to Aus, in terms of
overservicing by retail. So as consumers change behaviour, some are going to stand empty somewhere. According to all that I've heard on Bloomberg, Xmas sales were up in the US. But it was companies like Amazon which boomed. Internet commerce is more advanced in the US then here, with a larger market share. IMHO the same will happen here. New technology is changing things too. These days alot of people carry smart phones for instance. There are now smartphone apps which let the consumer go and browse at a bricks and mortar shop, scan the barcode of the product with the camera in the phone, then google the cheapest price in the US for that product and order direct online. That is going to make retail incredibly competitive! So just renting retail space and slapping on high margins, is not going to be enough in the future, the way I see things Posted by Yabby, Thursday, 5 January 2012 9:52:26 AM
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Yabby, you say internet won't have much effect on jobs, well, let's do the sums.
Take an item, a CD will do. in retail it goes from the manufacturer to the distributor, form there to the retailers warehouse, from there to the retail outlet, from there to the shelf, finall the checkout. All these steps involve staff. Internet. From the manufacturer, to perhaps a distributor, then directly to the customer. Do you honestly think there there no jobs lost along the way. OUG, welfare is yet another way people get what they can't afford. This government has simply shifted the burden of welfare from themselves to business. This will be as bad a mistake as unfair dismissal was in the early 90's. On the one hand workers expect the weak worker to be saved, yet they also expect weak businesses to fail. That's were the imbalance occurs. Survival of the fittest must work for both, either that, or both must be protected. Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 5 January 2012 10:58:17 AM
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I recently chatted with an American colleague who is gobsmacked by the cost of commercial space and the greed of some of these predatory landlords. Coming from an American citizen that is something. He does acknowledge a better lot here in Australia for minimum wage earners, of which in his home state make up the a large working poor.
There is no point in asking the poorest to shoulder the bulk of the burden through low wages, while many businesses continue to make exhorbitant profits.
While the factors affecting smaller businesses are unique, there are many small businesses doing well and adapting to changing market demands. It has always been this way, change is inevitable whether we like it or not.
I certainly agree that business role is not to act as charities in other areas of policy and that governments have placed more burdens on small business. Unfair dismissal - there is probably some room for making the process fairer and easier, given that small business cannot carry dead wood for as long. My fear is that to give too much on the employer side however will erode some of the fair conditions we have in this country for employees. WorkChoices proved that you give an inch and an employer will take a mile.
There has to be fair meeting point somewhere that recognises the importance of both employer and employee needs.
Consumers can choose not to shop at these mega plazas and go back to strip shops in local centres to support local small business which employs a large number of people. People power is what is needed to 'incentivise' fairer commercial arrangements.