Dear Lexi,

He might possibly be remembered 'alongside other secular giants - Bertrand Russell, Thomas Paine, David Hume' or maybe not, but what made him special to many of us was the fact he was our secular giant, or at least of our time, making sense of our world and its problems.

We learn today of the death of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il. Hitchens often compared him to the thought of an all seeing, all knowing, judgmental God, demanding absolute, unquestioning devotion from his subjects.

The death of a tyrant. What a fitting sendoff.

I find myself amused by the idea he, and I lost something in not beleiving in a God.
I understand some just NEED to believe.
And I know great good can come for the truly down and out, in real pain, by finding some thing to believe in.
But this man was living proof to me at least each of us travels on a journey in life its self.
He was unafraid to have come from the very left,and end supporting Bush.
He refused the cloak of diplomacy and said just what he thought.
Do not write us off OUG we may be the vanguard of a new reason, an understanding humanity alone is responsible for our actions .

cs quote..""'I think you have eloquently made Hitchens' case.""

thats funny
i can bel;ieve he is even now telling the spirits""This is my death now just Fxxx Off'!'."'

lol

them saying but hitch
your not dead

hitch says [eloquently]

look im right
yoiur wrong

im dead
now go away and leave me 'be dead'

but hitch ol mate
your not dead

so i will leave him to eloquently make his own point
he dont need me making it for him

so guys get over it
he is dead...lol

""You might need to the explain
the morality of seeking comfort in the imagined discomfort of another.""

see how your saying things i didnt say

those who know of gods love
arnt serviong god..if they say cccccrap like that

only demons seek to give 'dis-comfort' to others
any so called xtian[or arab..or jew]..that says that
dont know the good of god of which they claim to speak

but they are feree to believe or disbelieve
untill they eloquently destroy OTHERS beliefs

like hitchkids did
to many too gullable to get rid of..their wrong ideas re god

you believe or disbeieve
its your right..but to decieve others into disbelief
[eloquently..as hitch kids did...welll i will let him now speak for himself]

oh he is dead
so no god..how did that workout for him?

its little use being so sure
if he is wrong[but cant come back to explain it..[eloquently]

""But then moral bankruptcy
is the price exacted from those who would worship a deity
that orders any contrarian to face hell and damnation.""'

he is in hell
but heck thats where his peers will be

he wouldnt call it hell
he just dont know different
all he knows is they love him

besides there is no hell
[because anyones sin isnt real...its only judgment of others

god dont judge
why should we

its the web of lies
that catches out..only themselves

Dear OUG,

What Mr Hitchens so stridently objected to was the imposition of one person's system of belief on another. It was for this reason he was so reactionary against those judge and decry, claiming to know the mind of their God.

He often said people were quite within their rights to believe what they wanted to just not to come knocking on his door, or into his children's school, or into his marriage.

You my friend have come knocking into his death and as such are deserving of rebuke, if only in his name.

“he has decieved even innocent children...away from their father..god”...“bet he now fervantly wishes that were true”...”he is in hell but heck thats where his peers will be”.

But perhaps Lexi's wish for the Hitch, that he rest in peace, might well be a form of damnation.

So UOG blaze away since if immortality really does only exist until ones name is uttered for the last time, like the last ember of a funeral pyre, you are doing your bit to fan the flames and keep him from that very damnation.

By the old Campaspe River, where the breezes shake the grass,
There's a row of little gravestones that the stockmen never pass,
For they bear a crude inscription saying, "Stranger, drop a tear,
For the Cuff and Collar players and the Geebung boys lie here."
And on misty moonlit evenings, while the dingoes howl around,
You can see their shadows flitting down that phantom polo ground;
You can hear the loud collisions as the flying players meet,
And the rattle of the mallets, and the rush of ponies' feet,
Till the terrified spectator rides like blazes to the pub -
He's been haunted by the spectres of the Geebung Polo Club.

During a little sojourn into the above Banjo offering I found myself wondering whom of the other spectres Hitchens might be gathering around himself to help the house warming (not with UOG type of heat we hope).

My guess for one of the first on the list would be Hunter S Thompson.

From slate.com “And there, at the very fringe of habitation, was Owl Farm and its genial proprietor, Dr. Hunter S. Thompson. Once inside these well-armed precincts, I could drink and smoke and ingest any damn thing I liked. I finished a fairly long evening by doing some friendly target-practice, with laser-guided high-velocity rifles, in the company of my host. “

Joe Bagaent would have to have been a starter one would think. And Churchill.

And of course all the drinking philosophers... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlwPxF8_mKU

Would Jesus might get a gunsey, if only for his skill with the transforming H2O?

The thump of the lectern, the clink of the glass, the clouds of smoke and the bawdy limericks (only when Jesus was out of the room), would undoubtedly serve to keep the botherers at bay.

Any others?

no one gets eternal damnation..[its a simple truth]
there are people who have done the most vile things...here
who have revaluated their love of the material and spiritual 'sins'
and who have moved on...[gone and sinned no more']

the parrable of the long lost son..reveals the joy in heaven
when one 'sees the light'..and turns their back on selfishness
and turns their heart to the well being of others

no one can be *FORCED>>!...to do the right thing
one must in their own mind realise their own errors
before one can..be reborn..into the light

see hate has the need of a more dense/material like body
that obsures their 'god within'..[their inner life glow]
as we evolve spiritually...we moult off these more dense bodies
till we finally earn...[via l-earning]..the higher body..our better works have allowed to be revealed

hitch kids [into unbelief]...didnt earn his lower standing
by having his beliefs..or even in living them..he compounded them by subverting gods kids away from their father

thats not to say they wouldnt have rejected the fathers love by themselves..but he lit their way into greater darkness

so being wise...has that burden...
on top of the 'more..[of the same as we gave]..shall be a given..

i have no doudt even now he is recanting his wisdom
as vague echo's in hell...and even now is finding the light
and calling it good..[god]

we have cleverly had linked together many myths
santa claws/jesus birthday...a god like seeing everything eye [santa]
jusding good from bad..[a thing the real god dont do]...he dont judge anyone

and if we only tried to be like good [god]
how easy our lives could be

of course the lies..are lies

regardless of wether they are good ol-white lies
or the darkest black lies..its the subverting
of others freewill..thats the mortal sin
injury extracts other guilts

but these all come from within
as we realise that we do to the least[outside]
we do it the within..inside every living 'being'..sustaining us ALL our lives..