Iran is making Nuclear weapons.
Testing, taunting the UN it is clear trouble comes.
Will the uncertainty of who rules post Arab spring play a role.
Any morning now, we will wake to the news some one has fired the first shot.
If Iran?
2012 may well be the year some think, or as others point out 2011 may prove to be the one told of.
We fail, at every turn, to stop the insanity that war can be, will be,we at least in the west try.
Those currently in control in Iran appear to think differently.

I have not yet purchased a rocking chair.
My work life ending 12 months ago was a hard unplanned landing.
Not complaining, quite proud to be brave enough to put my UNION/MEMBERS first.
But from the fast lane, no sudden stop.
I read every major newspaper here and a big selection from over seas.
Yearn to learn still.
This subject will rock us all, in time.
Yes we will hear of American imperialism, Israel awfulness.
But push that a side.
Look at todays Iran, those fleeing the country, those dieing cruelly.
Those movements for freedom , many have existed all killed.
Understand the internal pressures, between its political leader and it religions leaders.
We are facing not some one who wants to talk/deal we face people who think 9/11 was good, who long for a bigger one.
She will not be all right mate.
No big guy in the sky will look after this.
We this morning are on the brink of a war we thought the fall of the Soviet Union had left behind.
If it starts will Pakistan join in, will India then too.
Has North Korea got the bomb?
I just wish I was being over dramatic, scare mongering, but it is all too true.

hi mr bell..i tried to post this comment here
http://au.news.yahoo.com/local/qld/a/-/local/11304702/qld-protesters-dwindle-after-evictions/

but so far nothing...[so as it relates to pro-testing..!]
thus i pro=tested

LIKE ARABS CAN DO..but i in a police state cant..!

i will add it to your spring time topic

im the old guy at the end of the vidio
http://www.skynews.com.au/topstories/article.aspx?id=681284&vId=2823165&cId=Top%20Stories

the vidio at 7 shows more detail
but ..lol..refuses to 'play]

so as i wrote at the first link
[and what hasnt posted]..lol

""i came to listen and watch..
[by the way im a self funded retired person]
not some dole bludger..and am concerned with much i hear on the news

i heard barnbaby joyce shutdown
when he dared to talk of qld debt..
[then at 65 billion...that 'rolls over into 75 billion in 2012 so i hear]..

im also concerned with the greek debt..who have the same polulation base as qld..and the fact that out state debt is near theirs..[the only difference being were overtaxed here..and get cheap intrest..while greece is paying 26% each year

so clearly i needed facts
so sat in the HOT kinggeorge square..watching

when *they were moved on..[so much for 'occupy'..lol
i went to where they were..[in the shade]

and was orderd to 'move on..[lol]..from a public space?

anyhow i told them to go away
they said repeatedly im under arrest..and picked me up
then 6 meters later..dropped me..as i passed out from heat egsaustion

and was repeatedly..*orderd to 'move on..
[lol]..from a public space?

by council bye-law?
police are sworn to her majesty
not council thugs

anyhow i told them to go away
after all i was in the public square

they said repeatedly im under arrest..and picked me up
then 6 meters later..dropped me..as i passed out from heat egsaustion

[the 'new kinggeorge squre is darn hot mate
designed to stop protest?]

i note from the footage..i was immediatly handcuffed
and a nice police man waterboarded me..lol

[after all this is queensland ruled
by those serving the state,..not the queen]

even though police are sworn to the queen[like me]

and no one is NOT allowed to watch others complain..pro-test..
[ie the 1%..who dare to briefly complain]

anyhow..the 7 vision speaks for itself
and maybe the 9

i was drenched with water
and eventually left alone in the shade..

to wonder what the heck had happend
to the right to simply sit and watch the world go by

peace man
it simply means watching the watchers
http://au.news.yahoo.com/local/qld/a/-/local/11304702/qld-protesters-dwindle-after-evictions/
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=9+news+brisbane+occupy&hl=en&sa=G&gbv=2&prmd=ivnsu&source=univ&tbm=nws&tbo=u&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CBoQqAI
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx%3Fid%3D8369211&sa=U&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CB8QFjAC&sig2=C00lF0yz9Eu_kSVbVv5FAw&usg=AFQjCNGLl0q6Hk_q_0803UNPelCbBinyyw
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8368609/police-evict-occupy-brisbane-protesters&sa=U&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CCEQFjAD&sig2=upCIKcZJTU9SHEC5EvOKVw&usg=AFQjCNFrmZUivb0tvX5RcwfioyUngHQB1A
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx%3Fid%3D8368609&sa=U&ei=lfWyTq3zOMWViAfomO2fAg&ved=0CCMQFjAE&sig2=07l14zAGRQ7dSeS3KkA2lQ&usg=AFQjCNFPnHfGBM7HnDOITia4wBfUKc194A

anyhow have a laugh
im bruised..but not batterd about too much

was it worth it..lol
mate im not shot dead
so its all good..

anyhow mate all the be4st
from johannine

anyhow..so much for arab spring..!
and free speach

i posted 6 times to yahoo..they ALLOWED..the 2 and 3rd
[ok the first was over 500 letters]..so i cut up the big post
into 4 little ones

then thought to fillout more details
in two posts...that have simply dissapered

so here is the second bit
[which i will flesh out a bit here

i was watching the 1%..who dared protest
from the hot [very hot king george public square]

and after the left..their occupation of the only shade
was orded by police to leave..[i was NOT protesting..only watching
from the only shade..from the hot king george square

orded to go away
or be arrested..i said bull..im in a public place
go away

ORDERD by police..[sworn to serve and protect
the queen/common wealth/the people..thus you mate..and me]..

but in reality..[by their deeds]
serving the corperate state..and special intrrests

via a vacious council decree...[not my council]
serving other special corperate intrests..[to wit silencing protest about insane excess by the money changers]

that serves to make us all into debt slaves..eventually

i was waterboarded..
face down on the hot pavenment..
felt them remove my handcuffs and they became human again

anyhow in the end i got faulsly detained AGAIN
but know complaint wont get heard

in the end..i left left to sit in the shade..lol
the same shade they had just tried to steal away from me

mate i know how the origonal people feel
at least they dont poisen the water and flour anymore

but mate...we got it worse than the arabs
we just too dumbed down by the mkedia..and govt
to know it yet

watch them censore us live time mate
i cant even blog my side of the story
without them censoring it

and cause olo dont do that regularilly
thats why i stay on line here
till next month

even if the only way i can talk
is by reply to topics you put up
thanks bloke

ok belly so much for my winge
lets look at your fears

""Iran is making Nuclear weapons...Testing,""

yes..with nuke reacters gifted them by usa
[you know from ge..who owns the nuke INDUSTRY]

THEY ARE NOT..as the isealie biased
warhawk industrial media has convinnced you
""taunting the UN""

mate..the media lies AGAIN
they really want it for enwergy
[recall PEAK OIL MATE..!..]

""it is clear trouble comes.}}
it will serve the intrests of those who sek armogeddon
ie seek the messiah of war..to come bring his endtime

[but thats delusion ol mate
god aint going to let that happen
thats one thing you must know]

""Will the uncertainty of who rules post Arab spring play a role.""

mate the warhawks install the leaders
that serve the corperat/money changer intrests
mate sadman insane wanted to sell oil for gold..ditto that other freak..that got assaniated under a white flag,,cause they dont want any public trial..[he wanted a gold coin for his oil too[and note no mention of the 300 tons of it he had..!]

""Any morning now,
we will wake to the news some one has fired the first shot.""

the only shot mate
the arabs aint dumb
they pray to god 4/5 times a day
they dont want war..only a fair trade..and fair terms

its not them that want armogeddon..!
[i had to get involved]

it is all linked..!

""If Iran?""

thats the hope
of those who think..killing 2/3 rds of all life
will make the one life giving god happy

HOW DOES ANY DEATH SERVE THE GOD [father]..OF ALL LIFE?

""2012 may well be the year some think""
yep mate//but not because the war moners won

"",or as others point out 2011
may prove to be the one told of.""

who knows mate...we serve EITHER the god of life/peace/love/grace/mercy
or the satan..

who's hate of ALL life..is well known
war mongers serve satan mate

""We fail, at every turn,
to stop the insanity that war can be,
will be,..we at least in the west try.""

no mate we dont
we let the war industries steal govt and finance
and media and education..heck they control julia/alp.obama
anyone serving corperate intrsts..over the majority who want only peace

""Those currently in control in Iran
appear to think differently.""

they by their deeds sek peace
ignore the media lies ol mate

""I have not yet purchased a rocking chair.""
you can have mine..[its a kiddy one]..but heck its time we went back to being LIKE kids

""I read every major newspaper here and a big selection from over seas.""

so you bough their corperate spin?

""This subject will rock us all, in time.""

thats why i risked getting shot or taserd
and vicious arrest..by thugs..working
to protect corperate deciet
supporting armogeddon

""Yes we will hear of American imperialism, Israel awfulness.
But push that a side.""

i cant mate..the messia came
and went..[to build us all a room in HIS [our]..fathers house

""Those movements for freedom
many have existed all killed.""

notice the pattern
satan wants slaves..we EITHER serve love/life/logic
or war[death][

""Understand the internal pressures,""

i do mate
the money rules

[heck jesus upturned
the tables of the money xchangers]
despoiling god..[the fathers]..temple

dare to ask WHY?

Note that Iran is not an Arab country. As such it cannot be part of the Arab Spring if the Arab Spring is confined to the Arabs.

So, if Iran invades Israel, and Pakistan decides to help (who? The Shias or the Jews?)- why exactly would India give a rats about it? If they can't be bothered fighting Pakistan for the sake of its OWN borders, then it sure isn't going to care about Israel or Iran. War isn't some kind of game where everyone nearby gets excited and wants to play too.

Lets rewind a bit;
1-At the start of this century, George W Bush adds Iran to the "Axis of Evil" for no apparent reason whatsoever.
2- the US invades other "Axis of Evil" country Iraq, for rubbish and blatantly false reasons
3- Iran, miraculously, decides to start arming itself (so does North Korea)!
4- The USA warns Iran that making the same weapons that causes countries to never get invaded again, is an act of war, and tries to insinuate that this would justify the US declaring war in return.

Simply, if we were to simply accept Iran is going to want a nuclear arsenal, and instead negotiate conditions and confirm they are only to use the defensively, and take them OFF the Axis of Evil- we would probably have a shot at peace.

Of course, Iran's not stupid- they know Israel and America have plenty of nukes to retaliate against a nuclear strike if they were to attack.
Of course, Israel is likely still powerful enough to beat most of the Middle East effortlessly, like they did in record-time the past few attempts.

More importantly, nuking Israel means nuking Palestine- whether the rest of the middle east REALLY cares about Palestine is another issue.

The axis of evil? An axis like any other line is determined by two points. George Bush was geometrically challenged in naming three countries to his axis of evil. It should be called a polygon of evil.

Don't worry about Israel, the Saudis will most likely be the spearhead of any attack on Iran.
Israel's army got their face punched by Hezbollah in Lebanon, they're not going to be able to do much if the whole Arab world plus Iran is on their case.
It's a misconception that Israel has always fought as the underdog, in 1948 they outnumbered the Arab armies by 90,000 to about 60,000 and they've always had air superiority in the region. Their land army is not really so formidable, their Merkava tanks for example got ripped apart by the latest Russian anti Tank rockets fielded by Hezbollah .
There's going to be a huge war in the next few years and it's going to be a massive disaster for the aggressors, but as to what the world looks like after WW3, I really have no idea.

Jay of Melbourne:

IMO life between WW111 and WW1V will be the most interesting and desperate of existence (for those remaining)!

read the book that has not lied up to now and you will clearly see the winners and losers. Can't say we have not been warned!

Runner,
Have you heard of the Siener van Rensburg prophecies?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRNNLZvNyE&feature=related

Well, Einstein (who wasn't an Australian) when asked how the third world war will be fought replied "I don't know but I can tell you that the fourth world war will be fought with sticks"

Belly:>> We fail, at every turn, to stop the insanity that war can be, will be, we at least in the west try.
Those currently in control in Iran appear to think differently.<<

"WE IN THE WEST TRY" Belly what sort of statement is that, "WE IN THE WEST LOVE ARAB IN FIGHTING" is the truth, and we stir the pot every chance we get. American power is all over the Middle East backing up the banks and their investments in oil. European and American interests have manipulated the region since the first lease was signed in about 1916.

The Europeans have screwed the Arabs from day one. Arabs did not manipulate the governments of the First World but the opposite is a fact, little surprise that many Arabs hate the west, Arab governments did not send military advisers to every hot spot on the globe, the Arabs just sat there and got exploited, until OPEC, which came about after the 60 year leases expired and the Arabs had a chance to partly govern their own destiny.

Why do we demonize Iran, a country that had Saddam as a constant protagonist at the behest of the Americans British and French? Belly when I list the foreign countries invaded by Arabs or Persians in the past 100 years I come up with a handful, and its neighbour vs neighbour crap. When I list the number of nations that Britain France and America have sent military to in the same period, its a fooking books worth. Belly you don’t know who the true enemy is, you fall for media demonizing of whoever is in the sights of the Banking Cartels and their military attack dogs. Belly producing nukes is easy; the difficult part is the delivery system and for all the blustering about rogue states with nukes the power to decimate humanity is still in the same hands it was 50 years ago.

King Hazza? Where did that come from?
I am not looking for the roots of todays troubles.
We can not change the past.
India/Pakistan both have the Bomb.
And will go to war one day.
JW Bush? he too has nothing to do with today.
In truth it was Dick Chain in charge George took two days to tie his shoes.
Knew the anti Yank stuff would get a run.
And even if that increasingly weird Nation ceased to exist ,instantly, the Zeal/Bigotry/hate behind those who enslave/control Iran would remain.
OUG video would not work try again soon.
Do not laugh off the Detour to world predictions for this and next year.
Not my preferred path, but see the million dollar winner in America who dreamed exactly how he would be told.
If we stop talking about the past, understand it is the past.
If America can no longer be blamed, after the blame is transferred to Israel.
Can we agree the force driving the murders and hate ,the wish to die for a cause, is not going away without war?
May just as well put those flowers in your ears as America and Britons guns.

sorry ol mate..[about the vidio]
seems that they only hold them for two days max

then the vidio[and comments]..DISS-appear..[forever]
unless someone downloaded it..or posted it to youtube
[even then no doudt in time they will stop youtube too]

your getting good advice ol mate
the delivering of a bomb..
is more important than 'having a bomb

even then the stux net virus..[or other clever bug..wouldnt allows a delivery system..[to deliver it]
no doudt guidence satilites..is a big key here
they wouldf scamble anything[not in the right place..or moving as fast as a rocket]

so mate your fears are groundless..[void of fact]
so its juast haters spinning reasons to hate

or fearmongers speading fear
liars lying

never the less..there are those
who hate life so much..*they would love to destroy it all..

[heck just look at plant animal extinctions]
but as for them attacking 'us'
mate that simply cant happen

mate think
if some real terrorist wanted to destry..[with a suitcase nuke]
anywhere they wanted would be turned into dust..just in a backpack
[now look at big drug seizures...mate a back pack boom is more likely
than iran doing anything to israe.. or us or australia or china etc etc

Dear Belly,

I fear that our world can become so obsessed with the
problems of hatred and aggression, that it will allow peace
and co-existence to be regarded as soft and weak. Yet our
survival depends on their dominance. The threat of nuclear
war is frightening. We need new ways of thinking to cope
with the nuclear age.

The writer Dorothy Green once wrote, " ...If we blow up
our world, we cannot hope to put it together again...
We cannot create something out of nothing...our worst
illusion is that we might return to the state of primitive
man. But he did not have polluted soil, poisoned streams,
irradiated game and vegetable foods."

In truth Lexi I hold the same view wishes thoughts and ideas.
However we must look at history.
Who would have thought Hitler would rise and set out to murder every Jew in the world.
I need not tell you of the deaths cruelty and horrors done in his name.
Then Communism, born at a time working class people thought it would free them from serfdom.
And it too murdered and you know that story.
History is full to the very top, with such truths.
America, I am pro America, executes so many people, has so much crime, drugs, no heaven our savior.
Yet it is a power for good as well as bad, far too many forget if America went back in to its pre ww2 shell we may not be free.
Harsh? I understand my next few lines will offend great numbers.
But honesty DEMANDS I say it.
Islamic Terrorists, believe they have the Right and duty to kill us.
Us laying our weapons down? Suicide.
We will, see a massive bomb go off one day.
I think then America Russia China will join to end any future trouble.
World peace may come then.

Dear Belly,

I think you've summed things up rather well.
I can't fault anything you've said.
People have been hoping for peace in their
time for years. Perhaps one day as you say -
it will come. We can only live and hope for
the sake of this planet and future generations.

I don't see the United States staying united for too much longer,Aztlan will come to fruition, the South will become Afro Centric with Atlanta as it's capitol and the economic overlords of Manhattan simply won't be able to hold the rest of the country together.
The goal is global hegemony and this seems to be make or break time for the elites, they have to go now, with or without their New World Order.
If I had to pick a prophecy it'd be Van Rensburg's simply because of his track record, England/The U.S will be all but destroyed in this coming war while Germany will rise again as the head of a European axis including Russia, with China the dominant power in Asia.

Sonofgloin.
Plenty of countries have Nuclear weapons only one has used them in war.

Simple Belly- when Pakistan and India developed nukes, war ceased. It became too much a risk to attack a country with a nuke for the sake of over a few lost territories.

A war in the Middle East would see Iran and Syria against Israel and the whole Arab Peninsula. Outside this region, nobody could care less. Plenty of major countries might make donations, or sell weapons- America might stick its head in, and promptly pull it out when publicity drops too much (or the fight gets too severe).

The idea that Russia, China, or the rest of Asia would stick its neck out for Iran, Arabia or Israel is infeasible to say the least.
Russia might have a hand to try to bump up Iran's power, to take control of the region- America would do the same- but neither of these countries would dare attack the other; or otherwise the Cold war would never have been cold.

belly be carefull with jumping to wrong conclusions

you said..'"Who would have thought Hitler
would rise and set out to murder every Jew in the world.""

every jew?
no just seize back their assets

mate recall the camps..[i posted last year an interesting stat
from just one of them camps...[of that camps..death numbers..only one third were jew]

so this 6 million number becomes suss
[dont the other 2/3 rds rate any mention
is it 18 million?
or 2 million

at any rate..its not all
[ps the camp capoes..[jews]..running the camps
selected who no longer could work
selected who would die
most killed were poles

just like the semite looking[dark skin]..jews
were kicked out of israel...[i believe the fear
spin..was to colonise the holy land]..

and get political control over usa

""I need not tell you of the deaths cruelty
and horrors done in his name.""

no mate...he had bankers who financed him
who just like bankers do today..tell him who to kill
[who's wealth they want][who they want gone]

""Then Communism,"'
comrad..the politariate
was the same faces as the previous lot
so the commie thing was still them/us..with many of their mates living in splendor..and their enemies dead

mate there is much untold about russia..did you hear that bbc broadcast yesterday..

[how the party members took everything again
when communism had done its bit

heck look at who runs russia today..the head of the stazie.
[another thing not mentioned in your papers..is that japan surrenderd,..not cause of the nukes..but because ussr was about to invade..[they prefered 'surrender to capitalists mnot capoes][also heard over night at bbc..[2 days ago]

''people thought it would free them from serfdom.''

and were tricked..like always
blame others..but the same elites rule

think ol mate

OUG I do think often and hard.
But on some things mate we will forever be far apart.
Iran, yes has been medaled with, all of its history, by many more than America.
Today may, but I can not see it, be a result of its history.
Consider this, in Nigeria, last night and yesterday, about 150 people died.
Murdered.
By an Islamist group, named something like this *Western Education is Sin*
Remember OUG from Islamic culture we got great things, and use hem still.
But this is not that culture.
Within Islam, not all, lives a hatred a blind one educated entrenched hatred.
Iran is in the hands of such.
In time we will understand, religion divides humanity, Islamist have as much right to their God as you have to yours.
But without any of them, my fear/understanding we are on the brink could be layed to rest.

Dear Belly,

Some people hold the view that nuclear weapons have
helped prevent war. Throughout the most recent
decades since these destructive devices have appeared
on the scene, most superpowers have tried to avoid outright
military conflict. However, unfortunately, the arms
race introduced recent instability into the balance
of power. Each new weapon or defense system seems to
offer one side or the other a chance to gain or
maintain some temporary advantage.

In practice therefore, reliance on nuclear deterrence
means a continuation of the arms race and the constant threat
of annihilation. Nuclear weapons don't guarantee that war
can't happen - only that it will be calamitous if it does.
They don't so much defend as threaten, and in threatening,
they elicit still more threats in return - as the world's
stockpile of bombs and missiles attests.

Is anything that Iran and others value so important that it
justifies risking the destruction of their own societies, the
murders of billions of people, and the jeopardizing of our
very species?

Let's hope we won't ever have to find out.

They can-not see past their own religion. Our way of life doesn't fit with theirs. We can-not live in the same world. It is kill or be killed.

Dear 579,

Then why are so many Iranians fleeing their country -
looking for refuge elsewhere. Obviously many of their people
don't agree with the regime that rules them. They're
voting with their feet.

Hope lies with the various movements in these areas that
are anti the government line.

Exactly right, but like all one man organizations they are entrenched in their own belief. It is not the people it is the organization. But how can you separate one from the other. If the people won't or unable to go against their leaders, it's becoming very obvious we can not go on with radical regimes.

dear belly...tomorrow
the papers will be raving on about israel
about how them arab semites are sending rockets..into greater israel

if you watch the news tonight
you might even see some vision..[from them sky thingies..
you know that bomb terrorists...operated by cia from usa]

well the vision i saw..didnt end with a bang
the vision showed some shadowy figures
taking a long tube from a truck

[and the voice over says
they are putting it onto a 'launcher']

now the thing is mate
how come israel didnt just blow them up?
[you know like the yanmks do...EITHER it wernt a rocket
or they didnt want to shoot their own..setting up the palisteins]

think mate
it should have ended with a huge bang
why didnt it?

israel neds the footage..to spin the deception
that..''they are under attack''..[so next it send in troops
or bombs them back to the stone age..but mate..THINK*

why didnt the footage show them actual terrorist
actually throwing a bomb into israel..[supoposedly]
why didnmt that footage show them being blown up

mate its propaganda
thats why

they set up the scene
but forgot that that type of vision
is SUPPOSED to end in a bang...

not some later attack
on..*not bomb delivering t-erroists

its just sems suss mate
a reason for israel to fight
poor israel..all them terroists

but why didnt the vision end in a bang?
fix it there and then

they had them..on vision
who for whatever reason..didnt blow them into hell"
right there right then

why not..!

it was propaganda!

Dear 579,

I agree.
Perhaps we should leave it up to
them to sort things out and stop
interfering in their affairs.
The more the West interferes, the bigger
the problem grows.

Lexi the Nuclear accident in Russia most probably played a big part in ending the cold war.
And yes, big powers did understand, the awfulness of such a war.
It was a deterrent.
Yet at least twice we came seconds away, from its start.
Humanity, we all , well the best of us, want it to one day be one.
We appear a very long way away from it.
I fear, truly always have, the flower power view, we should disarm, go away, leave it to them.
And equally am so very concerned at how easy some find fault with us, while over looking our foes.
If, after dragging its feet America had kept out of the Balkans?
Iraq, did those dancing in the street want America never to have come.
I can not continue my list, it hurts to know so many do not want to know.
AFGHANISTAN just those girls in schools womens life.
Last, the point most can not swallow but deadly true.
American power, is the deterrent, nothing else, that has stopped a Holocaust in the middle east.
And it CAN NOT CONTINUE, no white wash can cover the true nature and intent of some such as those in control in Pakistan and Iran.

hey bells..did you watch 7 sunday
www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QPGRjvkp3U

[thats its promo]
but watching the full show..
it was made to sound like armogeddon

but i prefer
http://www.emirates247.com/news/quarter-mile-wide-asteroid-near-earth-on-tuesday-2011-11-06-1.427028

Quarter-mile-wide asteroid..near Earth on Tuesday
This will be the closest encounter
by such a huge rock in 35 years
By AP
Published Sunday, November 06, 2011

asteroid 2005 YU55.[why you 55]

The asteroid, bigger than an aircraft carrier,
will dart..*between the Earth and moon
Tuesday, Nov. 8, 2011

the closest encounter by such a huge rock in 35 years.
But scientists say not to worry. It won't hit.

"We're extremely confident, 100 per cent confident,
that this is not a threat," said the manager of NASA's Near Earth Object Program, Don Yeomans.

"But it is an opportunity."

The asteroid named 2005 YU55 is being watched by ground antennas as it approaches..from the direction of the sun. The last time it came within so-called shouting distance was 200 years ago.

Closest approach will occur at 6:28 pm EST Tuesday when the asteroid passes within 202,000 miles of Earth. That's closer than the roughly 240,000 miles between the Earth and the moon.

The moon will be just under 150,000 miles..from the asteroid at the time of closest approach.

Scientists have been tracking the slowly spinning, spherical, dark-colored object since its discovery in 2005, and are positive it won't do any damage.

"We know the orbit of this object very well," Yeomans said.

The asteroid stretches a quarter-mile across.

anyhow i know how you like to worry
[other spin says it might knock satilites out of allignment
or simply cause a high water mark peak tide..]

or maybe set off some luna tricks

it sure couldnt be wormwood
cause that was eros

Listened on radio National OUG and known of it for a while.
It is just one of the ways Armageddon is said to be this or next year and one of tens that will not take place.
I used the term, but in truth do not think it would be the end of us .
History is full of end time dates and ,well I did watch the SBS one last night,very early this morning , repeat about the history of Jewish/Christian/Islamic God.
If we set aside, just for thoughts sake, these Gods.
And if we give the credit for our brains achievements, music so very much, including every holly book ever written.
We then see both our past present and future is was and will be in our hands.
Mankind's hands.
Now look at those hands, blood covered we even us,stole humans made slaves of them worked them in our cane Fields then, after they found reason to want to stay, deported them.
We humans for every achievement have failed too.
Nigeria, mentioned up the thread has, think about this 150 million people!
Half are Christian half Muslims.
I see no other path, that country's internal war is not going to see other than men stop it.
Iran, no one country one people, the mortal enemy of other Muslims, Friend of others, its pre American history was wars and invasions both by them and the other way around.
International affairs is not on automatic.
Diplomacy, the ability to lie as well as your opponent, keeps wars away.
But it will only take one cell, maybe 10 people,to get the ability, to explode a Nuclear weapon.
We must bank on no one prepare for a day war starts in an instant.
Consider this.
A terrorist ring/country aware of the prophecy around this year and the next .
Understanding the fear an attack would bring, if they had the bomb, if they and they do, thought the only God, theirs wanted them to, would reward them for? exploding it?

belly..""Listened on radio National""

not radio national..bbc overnight..on news radio
or bbc online

""in truth do not think it would be the end of us.""

no mate..its not us..they want to exterminate

""History..full of end time dates""

yeah sad eh mate

""watched the SBS..re Jewish/Christian/Islamic God.""

yeah me too

""If we set aside,Gods.""

at least allow for..one collective good/god..[in spirit]

""give..credit for our brains achievements,""
mate by itself a batrin dont do much

basicly it
needs collectivly other brains..
to each teach it higher knowledge..collectivly..evolving ever higher

""past present and future..is was and will be..in..Mankind's hands.""

only here..not in spirit
even so good and bad spirit..can affcet even here

""those hands,..blood covered we even us,""

no mate not you and me..
them..not us
thankfully our brains didnt think of that

""I see no other path,..that country's internal war""

too..will in time end..
every war ends..

the trick is in evolving our brains
to not allow any..more ways to start

""International affairs is not on automatic.
Diplomacy, the ability to lie..as well as your opponent,""

no mate diplomacy is also the ability
to tell a friend the truth
and still be friends

""keeps wars away...But it will only take one cell..to explode a Nuclear weapon.""

no mate..even a simple israel mossad/abduction
takes at least 20..to get in and get out..

and mossad wont let that happen[see mate mossad has a policy..its usually the first friend..any disturbed loner attracts

[their policy is to get into
every movement..*EVERY movement]

unl;ess it serves their higher adgenda..
[ie blowing earth life..into armygoddon]..their there to control it

""Understanding the fear an attack would""
COULD..""bring,""

only if the media beats it up
only if there are those seeking to beat it up
as an excuse to further insanity...like''if they had the bomb,""

mate they dont..!

""if they and they do,""

they dont

when they do
mate they wont

""thought the only God, theirs
wanted them to,..would reward them for? exploding it?""

mate GOD SUSTAINS..*all life..our/their living

no death..serves the life given good/god..of ALL life!

Iran on track for nuclear capability, says IAEA. With help from foreign knowledge crucial hurdles have been overcome. Report now being printed.

OUG no intention to debate Christianity here.
If we must however consider this.
From an intellectual point of view.
First do you think all humanity is one.
I do.
And if you do too, we both must consider, look past our education.
They have every right, absolutely, to think their God is the only one.
To think other is,well bloke a form of xenophobia.
Iran as 597 said is testing .
That may be no more than brink man ship.
Taunting.
North Korea's does it well.
I think, strongly, any Nuclear attack would result, if from a smaller power, its destruction.
China/America/ Britain/ Russia, may well stop others by force ever using them again.
Hence my belief one controlling force will rule us all one day.

Well I wanted to clean it up a bit ,under line what my thoughts are based on.
Religion first, it matters not who is right.
My thoughts are this, OUG and many are totally Christian.
And as they have the right to, believe their God is the one true God.
Totally.
That belief *must* be understood.
It by association, says other Gods are false.
Now if OUG was Muslim/Buddhist/any other.
We *must* not forget he then too would believe those teachings.
As is the right of EVERY HUMAN my view is we westerners, far too easily, discount all views other than our own.
We defeat ourselves in doing it.
We even paint Jesus as a white Anglo Saxon.
He was Jewish, probably smaller and brown skinned.
So as we have all types of Christians, who believe totally in their God and no other.
Others do too, in the name of different Gods.
That does not make for inclusiveness.
Humanity divided.
Haveing try ed to set a case,to say not single belief can claim us all this year and the next threaten us all.
Given propercy, Bible and all others.
Just as a fundamentalist Christian once try-ed to burn the temple on the mount down, to hasten Jesus return.
Will terrorism/terrorist country's act based on those predicted events.
continued

ww1 and ww2 saw both sides beleiving God was with them.
And looking from the other side it must be clear they too think like that.
We know, those of us who care to see,great evil lives within some Islamist country's.
Why is Iran testing/taunting.
Soon I dread it, but you can bet those charged with protecting the west are aware.
Use will be made of the prophecy's that the world will end soon.
Fear is a weapon.
While any true review would show Iran,any such country could not win.
A belief God is with you approves of your actions and wants those actions?
Western country's will be watching every act closely and for that I am grateful.

Iran is of no threat to the USA or Israel.Israel has 300 nukes and the USA enough to wipe Iran from the map 1000 times.The neo cons want Iranian oil and a war because their own peasants are revolting over the theft by bankers of their money.How many countries has Iran invaded? The USA has invaded 6 or 7 threatening Syria,Iran,Pakistan and even China.The fascists are in the USA and the Military,banking complex wants it all.The USA like us does not have much industry these days.

Prof W K Black says 90% of the Fannie and Freddie was mortgage fraud onsold to pension funds and other institutions as safe investments.They have the evidence,but the Bankers have too much power.

relax Belly the god deniers have caused much more death and destruction than all the religous fruitcakes put together.

I under stand and except arjay and runner have every right to their views.
As I have to mine.
Runner it is rare, extremely so, you and I agree.
I truly hold those like you, for my awaking to the falseness of religion.
Arjay, every now and again I see some of what you say is not wrong.
You seem to often circle the camp fire of truth.
But never quite get there.
I am one of your deniers runner.
You tell me these things, please.
Did God create the heaven and earth.
All men and women.
Are we all his children.
Then did he get Moses to cast out the Idols Jews had started to worship.
Why then 3 major religions all with roots to the Jews his chosen people.
Runner no heat, not bitterness, no emotion, just why.
If today, we sat down all humanity, and rewrote God.
One God one humanity, one set of rules to live by.
Soon half the world would follow the other half? make a new one to clutch in fear of the river of life and death.
We will again, see the mushroom cloud in the sky.

army-gedd-on...mr bell?

A political analyst says that the Zionist regime is pushing a new law which would classify Jews as a separate race with links to the Palestine land - justifying their 'expulsion' of Palestinians.

http://whatreallyhappened.com/www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Un1iQJPjM
An exclusive interview with Bruce Katz, co-president of the Palestinian & Jewish Unity (PAJU)

A political analyst says that the Zionist regime is pushing a new law which would classify Jews as a separate race with links to the Palestine land - justifying their 'expulsion' of Palestinians.
http://chimpplanet.blogspot.com/2011/11/racist-white-european-jews-in-israel.html

The irony is that Israel-born Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu came from a Jewish Polish family with the last name of Mileikowsky, which his grandfather changed to Netanyahu.

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2011/11/08/warmongers-eager-for-more-blood-letting/
http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2011/11/from-911-to-world-war-iiitowards_08.html

heck why bother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sD8ZaxAHmS0&feature=channel_video_title

tribalism...when one tribe wants to make their way global
we all go global..or get picked off one by one

heck read the news
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
israel beating the drums of armogeddon again

Belly I think you ask

'Why then 3 major religions all with roots to the Jews his chosen people.
Runner no heat, not bitterness, no emotion, just why.

Plenty of counterfeits usually means their is a genuine. Just like their is genuine science and you have gw as a counterfeit you have Christ the substance and many other poor imitations or perversions.

Runner you are never back ward in putting your view, that is your right,
And as I do some times you put it at times harshly.
If this was a formal Oxford style debate.
I would claim in reply to your post, you conceded defeat.
Lets look 7 Billion humans alive today on this planet.
True Christian will say all Gods/Christs Children.
How many? Billions have lived and died?
How many follow/followed Gods other than yours.
Runner, do you understand in naming others imposter's, you over look your Gods holly book.
His chosen people are Jews.
I am baffled, concerned, how can such as you change the intent of that book.
But remind you, your Church is shrinking another, already far more followers than yours, growing.
Every follower of every God, thinks his is the only one, others and those who follow second grade humans.
A PLAN FOR NEVER ENDING WARS.

Belly

Christ is the only One qualified to forgive sin. Either He is a fraud, liar or He told the truth. Its not rocket science. Non belief in God is far more likely to cause war than belief. Look at the millions of babies murdered by non belief let alone the millions killed by athiest in the name of their non belief.

There is none so blind was he who will not see.
In one sentence you throw the belief of the biggest section by far, of humanity in the rubbish bin.
More Muslims, and very likely more of a couple more religions exist than Christians.
God was love in my childhood, you push us in to thinking he made most of us, so we could die and be punished in hell.
BUT you show in seeming giant Neon lights, why I think humanity is divided still by our child Hood comforters Gods.
That we still kill each other in his names.

She will be right mate!
They would not dare.
Not dare 9/11
Bali
Real war tonight in London.
No not the NRL thats on weekend, Murdock fronts Parliament.
Was that an explosion?
She will be right,wont it?