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The Forum > General Discussion > The owners have agreed, so get over it.

The owners have agreed, so get over it.

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Meanwhile, the likes of Hugh Jackman get paid tens of millions just for making a movie, whether it's a hit or a flop, and not one single complaint.

Everyone hates the CEO,s.

This Qantas fiasco is just the beginning, so brace yourselves for a rocky road ahead, as even the greens have acknowledged the likes of Qantas are not competing on a level playing field an as such, have asked for government assistance.

Of cause they can't help one without helping all and, given that they have pissed all our money away, and some, it will be interesting seeing how they go about trying to save these jobs.

Good luck!
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 31 October 2011 1:59:10 PM
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http://www.payscale.com/research/AU/Job=Baggage_Handler_

Try this link for thier pay rates
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 31 October 2011 5:06:39 PM
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Rehtub

The link that you posted suggests that the baggage handlers are on $30-60 000. People like governments shouldn't feel afraid to publicise accurate information about how much people are paid when there is industrial action. The top figure does seem a bit high and if it is true, I am sure that public opinion would turn against the airline workers.
Posted by benk, Monday, 31 October 2011 8:39:48 PM
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Sorry about that benk, wrong link
Try this,

They get paid upwards of 20 per cent above the industry rate and earn between $70,000 to $85,000 a year including penalty rates.
F the unions. They are crippling an Australian icon.
70 000 Passengers have been disrupted by them in the past 9 months. Union action have caused nearly $70 million in cost to Qantas in the past 9 months since this action started. Why are they trying to bleed the company they work for to death?
What about the people who work for Qantas but are not taking union action, unions are pushing so hard that there will be NO jobs for any of them in the future.
Remember Ansett? The mindset of management and unions f,d it for everybody, employee's committed suicide over it, 16000 of workers ended up unemployed and most likely on the dole because unions tried to bleed it for everything it had (and other reasons like AirNZ).
Unions are being greedy, 70-85k a year for an unskilled worker in Australia is top dollar. Then they threaten their employer with strike action which would cost 15 million a week to Qantas?
This country is outrageous, the sense of entitlement has gone to the extremes. From reading comments about Qantas today, Reddit is full of left wing assholes who would be happy to cripple their employer and watch them crumble.
, some people who have degree's do not even get paid this amount. Any decent unemployed, unskilled Australian would work for 55k a year and be happy.
Good on Joyce for standing up to these assholes finally. As for his pay rise, i don't agree with it 100%, but he more than doubled its annual net profit to $249 million last year!? He deserves to be rewarded for that.
Vote this down as much as you like, you are probably in a cushy job with the govt or a union backed industry and don't have a real grip on what its like in the real world as a business owner.
Posted by rehctub, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 6:00:07 AM
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I think your pay rates are a bit rubbery. Baggage handler for qantas New starter $ 26,255 10 - 19 yrs exp $45,458
Flight attendant 30 to 67,000 on yrs of service.
Commercial pilot jet 48,360 to 230,734.
Posted by 579, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 12:23:53 PM
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"the likes of Hugh Jackman get paid tens of millions just for making a movie, whether it's a hit or a flop, and not one single complaint."
Well I personally DID complain about that horrid "Australia" movie as it got a public bail-out.
But besides that, you would have to tell me if Hugh Jackman ever:
-purchased a public utility and use it for extortion
-Anyone were forced to see his movies- as we are forced to use a plane to get around long distances in an appreciable amount of time.

Face the fact that this has got nothing to do with 'tall poppy syndrome' and everything to do with blatant corruption involving a service that could hold much of our country's logistics hostage- along with watching someone abuse an asset that the public used to own. If anything you just proved this to be true in your post.

Of course, I should point out again that if we never sold Qantas, this wouldn't be happening at all, and the airline would actually still be worth using.
As it stands, it has grown so bad I am actually quite happy if it collapses outright, and foreign airlines fill its place. It has passed its prime.
Posted by King Hazza, Tuesday, 1 November 2011 4:53:11 PM
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