Pelican:"I am not sure why the opening post only deals with lesbians."

From the linked article:"More than half of women are attracted to other women - and it gets more pronounced as they get older"

Any other questions?

Well the article states it is so, it must be true.

What was I thinking. It is not unsurprising that it is older women coming out given the baby boomers were still reticent about identifying as homosexuals. Younger women and men are less restricted thanks to a growing acceptance.

Babyboomer men and women have been coming out for a while now. It is not news. Aren't we all over the idea that homosexuality should be hidden. Surely it is better that people are not forced to live a lie and in the process ruining their own life and that of their spouse.

Also...half of women? Really! This is bunkum. More from the loony Right to instil fear, intolerance and the 'sky is falling' syndrome. I wasn't polled and I am not sexually attracted to other women. I doubt myself and my many female colleagues and friends who are not attracted to other women are extraordinary or that different from the norm ie. average.

Yes I have another question. Why are so many male posters on OLO out to negatively stigmatise women in anyway possible. It seems gender issues are being dictated by the jaded men's society. What is the relevance of the gender in coming out as gay?

These types of masculinists are no better than the man-hating rad fems. You cannot fight extremism with extremism and that is all this dog whistle post is about-more fodder for the fire. It is just getting tiresome that is all.

Pelican, the original post was by somebody advocating for gay marriage, not by anybody "bashing women".

I'm not sure why you think that mentioning women have a penchant for lesbianism is attacking women either. If it was mentioned that women menstruate monthly, frequently leading to increased time off from work would that also be bashing women? What if it's true? (it is, BTW)

If it was mentioned that young men have a greater tendency to act out violently when drunk, would that be attacking men? What if it was untrue? (it isn't)

Not everything to do with gender is also to do with advocacy. Some things are just interesting in their own right and as prompts for further consideration of their implications.

On the subject of the article, I have to say that I don't find the research at all startling. Women have been told for two generations that they are "better" than men and that men are nasty and brutish. It seems unlikely that such messages have gone unheard.

Moreover, there has been an enormous campaign of advocacy for homosexuality as a norm, with some very high profile women in the media/show business particularly making a point about their sexuality. Given the ability of people like Ellen de Generis to influence people on other issues, it seems reasonable that she has had influence in unanticipated ways as well.

Everything I've read about human sexuality makes it clear that women are sexually less constrained than men and that their principal driver of sexual desire is intimacy. Women are just as able to provide that intimacy to each other as men are able to provide it for them, perhaps more so. The actual mechanics is pretty simple and every woman I've known has had a vibrator or dildo in her top drawer. It doesn't make much difference who's using it.

Now, about my plan for male secession...

My God, I hope this isn't true. Women are so beautiful, soft and round, that surely there is no better evidence that there might be a god, or goddess, and a kind goddess at that.

Certainly women should, and do, have the right to pair off with other women but every pairing-off makes the world a colder, less enjoyable place for many men. I certainly have no desire to hang around with some bunch of hairy, smelly men, scratching themselves and f@rting and talking about what they have in their sheds. Let me have women about me who are fat and cuddly and such as sleep a'nights, eventually.

Joe

Secession Anti - nice to see your sense of humour at the fore. :)

I may have jumped the gun a bit (a habit of late) and was expecting this to be another salivating producing post for some men to kick the boot into women. The statistics do seem rather high to be taken too seriously.

It is so hard being a victim sometimes. :)

Pelican as is common when you have a fixed closed mind on an issue you miss the point

'It is 'normal' for homosexuals to be attracted to same-sex even if it is not the societal norm - as in the most common statistically speaking.'

Ask any teenager whether it is normal to want to have sex with a different boy or girl every week. Of course as they watch it happening on TV nightly and their hormones run amuck many would say yes. Moral relativity makes the perverted, abnormal, unhealthy acceptable because absolutes are rejected.

Many people believe having sex with the same sex is okay but find sex with animals abhorent (except maybe some of our preeminent ethicist). Without any moral basis you really have no basis to say either is wrong or right. There is plenty of medical evidence to show that sodomy is a very unhealthy activity. There is also loads of evidence that denying a child a father is also very detremental. So why promote lifestyles so detrimental to society?