Just a thought, but could this be an evolutionary hangover? With the men off hunting and fighting, was it the norm for our remote ancestral mothers to get it on together? It seems possible that such arrangements might lead to better outcomes for the children of both women in an environment in which the men were rarely around and often met untimely deaths.

It might explain a great deal about the world it seems some are trying to create? Of course, in todays world, the men are always around.

Perhaps my opposition to feminism is misguided? Perhaps it's time for the men to all shoot through to somewhere else and leave the women to it, dropping in occasionally to make sperm donations and drop off some essentials and otherwise let the girls get on with it?

Anyone know of an empty island big enough to hold 10 million or so blokes, or should we just demand WA? There's a train line running straight there, so it wouldn't be a hassle to shove the pubescent boys on as soon as the testosterone started to show.

I was simply going to suggest that if the girls are bothering each other, blokes can just get on with things - as in the old joke about the engineer whose wife assumed he was with a mistress and his mistress who assumed he was with his wife whereas he was getting in some decent work.

I like Anti's suggestion more. If we are to have a physically separate "coventry" for males (Shed Province?), could we have one free of god-botherers too?

Rusty

That article should have been in the political section of that website.
Lisa Diamond's theory of sexual fluidity among women has been used by everyone from Oprah to NARTH to bolster political points of view.
Gender studies is just Gender politics.

Hasbeen as you say it is about expectations, and it is about boundaries. Consider the tv shows from the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s that still occupy a reasonable proportion of today’s televised piffle. Almost exclusively the scenario was based around a family unit, which was the social expectation. What enforced that expectation? Or alternately did the expectations develop from the enforcements.

What I mean is that the population had cultural enforcements for that theme. Religion enforced the morality and family aspects, while the judicial system classed women as second class citizens when any aspect of litigation arouse between a man and wife. From the mid 80’s religion fell in a heap and the laws changed to positively discriminate for women in family litigation.

So the women now had the freedoms that males have always enjoyed and what have they done with it, hit menopause and turn bi sexual by the stats in this thread. Men need parameters and a stick to keep them in line, but women need higher walls on their parameters and if you hit them with the stick the courts or the pro women lobby groups will have you for breakfast.

HB, all I can say is “women gone native”.

runner
It is 'normal' for homosexuals to be attracted to same-sex even if it is not the societal norm - as in the most common statistically speaking. Do we discriminate against blondes because there are less of them than brunettes?

I cannot see how anyone can honestly compare homosexuality with having sex with animals. It is an unfair comparison designed to shock.Where is the compassion to treat people with respect and dignity even if their sexuality differs from the norm (the average).

What harm can same sex relationships cause to others? Why are some men threatened by this? Women are not making negative assertions about homosexual men. It is not all about you. Women are not saying let's leave men to it and just drop in occasionally to pop out a baby. It is just ludicrous this sort of mentality and I am surprised we still dwell in this sort of nonsense.

runner
You fail to convince that homosexual relationships in anyway diminish or threaten heterosexual relationships. Why the aggression? You talk about moral relativism but fail to establish why it is immoral. Who is being harmed (the test of morality).

I am not sure why the opening post only deals with lesbians. Many men have left marriages once out of the closet. What is the difference. Menopause may just give women the courage to follow their true feelings. The nurturing oestrogen being replaced with some more direct testosterone.

Let's face it when people get to a certain age they no longer feel the need to impress people, to conform to societal fripperies and superficialities like keeping up with the Jones'; many older people feel more able to be honest about what they want in life. This is nothing new.

As for suicide, teenage suicide is higher among homosexuals because not only are these kids dealing with the usual process of growing up but with outright discrimination and aggression. Mostly from people professing to be morally superior.