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Should the green senator resign?

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I haven't had the opportunity to see any of the lead up to this particular incident but there seems to be general confusion about the role of the Ombudsman (OmbudsPerson)

In reality, they have a very limited jurisdiction, limited to matters such as the administration of the law.

They certainly aren't there to keep anyone honest, as *Belly* asserts. It would be nice if they were, but experience has shown me that that is clearly not the case.

Specifics of what little they actually do is on their web site.

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Posted by R0bert, Thursday, 20 October 2011 8:55:16 AM

" ... Better if those who see their role in politics as not involving open and accountable government resigned.

In a similar vein I think that the concept of cabinet secrecy is fundamentally flawed except where national security is not at stake ... "

Yes, I tend to agree. I can't begin to express how sick of these people I am with their duplicity, petty lies and obfuscation.
Posted by DreamOn, Thursday, 20 October 2011 10:48:41 PM
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RObert no way! I challenge your view I single Hanson Young out.
She has singled her self out.
I see this.
We all must demand honesty from every politician.
Only in the fact funding was involved was ANY OTHERS INVOLVED.
The well worn path of leaking still exists.
And is well traveled, it could have been used.
Sitting down, with one of those who you are supposed to keep honest.
Planning, even haveing the questions rehearsed?
A danger has always existed , we tend to make less of the crimes of the enemy's of our enemy's.
We should judge on facts, seems likely Labor under funded him.
And that he left because more share my views than do not, on EVERY SIDE.
Except the Greens.
Lets note, what green, we have many here,who is here defending her?
What would we be seeing/hearing/.
If Labor/Liberals had CONSPIRED WITH HIM.
It is Hugely important that wrong be seen as wrong, that this rising star beheld accountable for this act of dishonesty.
In politics those things matter much more than protecting our own side.
IF not we care little about better governance.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 21 October 2011 5:40:01 AM
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its hard to say this
but we have shot ourselves in the foot...[again]

here it seems was an honest man
charged with doing the impossable
a man honest and true..cleverly used by howard..to feign[pretend]..honesty and accountability of a bad system..used by vile people

it seems howrd wanted his honour aas a shield
against boat people critisism by the media[and others]
to then make sure he hasnt the minesterial acces..nore funds
to fix nor change anything.

[in short to put up a good guy..[indesputably honerable and true
but to make sure..his good dont spoil the plans of those with vile hearts..[a man to shield them..to hide behind his honour..while doing great dishonour

the suilence..and differences..betwen this man of honour
and that unionist with dishonour..[and many free lunches and hookers on his union credit card]..stands stark..that scum was defended..this man..[more angel of good]..the contrasting silence stands mute..

we wouldnt be worthy
to loosen his shoelaces

thus the greenie..who saw honourable works..
and tried to help..such a one..*in honour
achieve only that true and honourable..
SHOULD NOT RESIGN..!

infact all who kept silence
stand condemmed

we have innocent blood on our very souls
but even worse both sides
of the two party
demonic

autocracy
stand condemmed

they defended loudly and long
a bad unionist..who refused to bow
then stood mute by..to allow an inocent man to be hung
sacrificed upon the alter of rightiousness...of the unrightious

the questrions..AND their answers
stand as holy..for they were asked by holy conscience

goodness has seen the vile exposed
for what they didnt do..for this honest man

and those he was charged to protect
but...*prevented from protecting..!..
Posted by one under god, Friday, 21 October 2011 7:08:36 AM
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OUG the bloke has only been in this role for 12 months.
If his actions, and those of his partner in crime are honest I am blind.
Posted by Belly, Friday, 21 October 2011 10:55:08 AM
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Some admirable sentiments *Belly* but as of lst I heard, it was not illegal for politicians to lie. As much as can be done is to expose them in the public limelight when we can catch them out and hope that people won't vote for them again.

But then, that can be difficult when there is so little quality journalism, and where politicians really are just given a mic to spout off any old codswallop and thus the expression, "feeding the chooks."

I would point out to you that successive guvment administrations from the blue and the red of politics have had ample opportunity to create laws to prohibit the promulgation of untruths, but you will find that this is one of those issues where the mainstream of politics are as thick as thieves and that they have less than zero will to do so.

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Alternatively, I believe that the *Greens* would be prepared to create appropriate legislation, but until the electorate at large grows a brain and stops voting for red/blue, it is highly unlikely to happen.

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Certainly, whenever you hear the politicians, in my view, start talking about so called "National Security" you can bet that anything they say publicly is littered with lies, and if not, it is extremely rare that provide the "full story."

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Akin too other tin pot guvments around the world, their political survival is predicated on keeping people ignorant, as if the scroll was rolled out in a really transparent way, and people could witness who gets paid what for doing what, and what the guvment really gets up to overseas for example, there would in my mind undoubtedly be an uproar.
Posted by DreamOn, Friday, 21 October 2011 11:23:07 AM
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belly watch 730 report and lateline intervieuws
mate they picked an honest guy
then cut him off at the knees

ignored anything he had to say
add in the silence mate

compare that to those speaking up
for that slimeball with his union credit card

i know it hurts to be wrong mate...but what do you do
when your only contact into govt ignores you..[and those your entrusted to defend..!]

i would search for the links[at abc]
but im over looking up things no one reads

i hate greenies mate
they conned me into allowing them
to taks a monthly payment from my bank
then refused to allow me into a meeting i stumbled across

i know they are scamers
i know they are conned
i know that carbon tax sceme is fraud

but in this case the public servant was only trying
to do the job he was put there to fix..[so it appears]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 21 October 2011 11:23:28 AM
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