Again all posts interest me, make me glad I started this thread.
Poirot best describes my understanding.
Some know, I was once a Christian,while stable in my work life I have moved around many different lifestyles and people.
Even in the midst of community's set up to be perfect Islands with a perfect world harsh wars broke out and destroyed them.
A system that rewards as ours does, and leaves others behind is bound to do this.
Justin one lifetime, mine, we have gone from knowing every one in our street town,village.
To not being able to say Gday to neighbors,and not wanting to.
We are not Bazz threatened by end of oil or any fuel, we have the ability to go into space.
We can and will develop new fuels.
Remember, never forget, GOVERNMENTS TAX FUEL that is the reason for costs.
If they increase GST tax breaks for the rich die, we could use our cars, maybe return to the Sunday drive.
Stupid, thats what it is for me to say, but if we had as we did, when we mostly thought God watched us,a reason to unite be better to others, a rule to live by.
Well in the end we may just get it a new God for every one,the same one an invention that may hurt but long term who will know.
Move over North Korea.

If the power of veto did not exist in the UN.
if America. China. England/Russia could not act in their own self/political interests.
Syria would not be murdering its own people.
Maybe North Korea would not be private property of a single family, and starving to death.
I think we fail humanity in letting this happen.
But too see a day people will look at the promise of settling such issues as good.
And not see,the dangers of total control.
While nice to be nice,we just can not put our self interests aside and work together to fix our troubles.

Belly,

Now that you have started something, here is a brilliant article, well worth reading carefully:

http://www.opendemocracy.net/david-held/from-american-century-to-cosmopolitan-order?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzEmail&utm_content=201210&utm_campaign=Nightly_%272011-10-18%2005%3a30%3a00%27

Happy and thoughtful reading !

Cheers,

Joe

Brilliant! thanks loudmouth, the JM Keynes quote left had corner top last paragraph told it all.
I recommend your link to anyone interested in this subject.
Look in truth the verbiage tested me a few times but understood it all.
And it challenged me!
See I have always wanted a better world.
A more caring one, and always been let down, Communism, only for a very short time, Socialism, both let me down.
So I put my understanding of human nature,self interest first .
In the way of a possibility, somethings would be better if controlled in the interests of all the world.
I know humanity is not dealing with its own mass produced problems.
We make starvation happen/refugees happen, and we fail to be concerned, more every day, about others death and pain.

There is one problem that is ignored so far. Many scientists in many countries are aware of the common threat to the world and effective world government.

There are large, near- earth asteroids - which could destroy the human race. Not like the one that Bruce Willis saved earthlings from in a movie. NASA has counted 880 planet buster asteroids. NASA used their WISE satellite using infrared radiation to find out for the first time their size and No.

All near-Earth asteroids 10 Km across, (one wiped out the dinosaurs), have been found. The risk of armagedon is substantially reduced according to the Harvard Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics in Cambridge, Mass. This scientific evidence, is what the US Congress in 1998 asked NASA to produce (arxiv.org/abs/1109.6400)

Even, so here are also 19.500 Near-earth asteroids between 100 and 1,000 metres across. Half as many as previously estimated using reflected light in optical telescopes. 70 million years ago a km sized asteroid wiped out most animals on land and , sea life and the next king hit could be the next ten years or 70 million years in the future .
Consider also that NASA identified around 7,800 asteroids more than 100 metres across. If we assume that 400 metre wide asteroid could impact the earth at around 25,000 km per hour . This could destroy a nation with fire storms , trigger ing shock waves in the earths crust that trigger of earthquakes, volcanic eruptions and sunamies . Perhaps, stratospheric dust produced by the impact and volcanic eruptons this could trigger off a mini ice age In the temperate regions . Crops and food production would fail and a billion or more would die.

Perhaps, years later when the sun shine through, the long lived CO2 released by the fiery impact , volcanoes, forest fires, urban fire storms would over heat the atmosphere .
The technology exists to identify "snooker games" taking place in the asteroid belt and calculate any post collision course with the earth

Pest ok true, it has happened before.
We too could press that button and start the war we fear most.
But in the end this debate is now in two parts.
Is it likely to happen one world rule.
If so,given our inability to fix things, or even act as one, could it be beneficial or slavery.
I would like the UN to be a universal peace keeper, maybe some other duty's, but not rule.
And in the end we will have no say.