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The CO2 Tax is Permanent ?

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Sorry Bonmot I understand your point, I worded my question incorrectly.

By how much will the temperature be lower if we introduce the tax compared to not introducing the tax ?

Do you know if the IPCC has rerun the computer models using the
Uppsala new fossil fuel figures ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 19 September 2011 1:48:18 PM
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Negligible.

Like I said, the aim is to limit the expected increase (to something that is more tolerable).

For example, instead of 3 degrees C by 2100 (global average, say), limit it to 2 degrees C.

If you can get past the pay-wall, this is well worth the read:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/01/28/0812721106.abstract

Kjell Aleklett? Not sure (there were unforseen/unexpected problems) but there will be more to say about certainty/uncertainty in AR5.

As I understand, the main reason for the carbon tax is to drive Australia towards 'cleaner' energy resources as part of its adaptation and mitigation measures to climate change. As we all know, these things don't happen overnight.
Posted by bonmot, Monday, 19 September 2011 2:51:36 PM
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Bazz, here is the open access pdf link:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/01/28/0812721106.full.pdf+html
Posted by bonmot, Monday, 19 September 2011 2:58:02 PM
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Bazz? R U OK?
Look again at my post read every word.
How can you find bias?
I reported the facts.
Well if we must we must, I confront your choice of words with this!
Tony Abbott says if there is no tax no need to pay it exists.
Based only on this, the fact he is not going to have the numbers to stop it, the tax will be past before Christmas.
And unless his constant diatribe, can bring down the government, by 1st day July next year it will be implemented.
Bazz I find it insulting that you say I am biased but avoid the truth ,you are poorly informed, and your understanding is under question on this issue.
Post July ,as my post said, removing the tax is not an easy task, headlines yet to be written, story's linked here today all say or will say if implemented removal will be extremely hard.
Business groups openly say Abbott system will not work.
Please re consider the charge every one who thinks different is biased!
Posted by Belly, Monday, 19 September 2011 5:26:15 PM
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Sorry if I offended you Belly, but I can't see how you can do other
than acknowledge your labour party bias. Surely you can see it ?
I know you are not happy with some in the party now, but no matter
what anyone on the opposition says or does it is wrong.
73
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 19 September 2011 6:02:42 PM
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<< I put this down to the deliberate disinformation and misrepresentation orchestrated by those opposed to the tax on ideological grounds - Andrew Bolt, Alan Jones and Australia's Liberal/National Party Opposition obviously come to mind>>

They'd have to be good,real good, to beat some of the climate change spuikers--like, for example, Ban Ki Moon.

http://www.australianclimatemadness.com/2011/09/ban-ki-moon-clueless-on-climate/
Posted by SPQR, Tuesday, 20 September 2011 5:44:57 AM
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