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Dissappered Asylum seeker Boats.

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Talking to yourself is the first sign of?
Posted by Shadow Minister, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:03:59 AM
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Banjo:

<< It is simply a matter of government deciding NOT to give the illegals what they seek and it doesn't really matter where they are processed >>

Yes, it should be this straightforward. If the priorities were right, it would be this way. If the priority was to stop this whole onshore asylum seeking rat-race quickly, decisively and permanently, as it should be, and redirect our national efforts into boosted offshore refugee programs and international aid, then it wouldn’t be hard to do it.

Fester:

<< I dont see the motivation of the boat people to be of much relevance. What annoys me is government policy rewarding their life risking behaviour. >>

Yes.

Shadow Minister:

<< That was precisely what the pacific solution was about, and it was an overwhelming success. >>

YES! The methodology for dealing with this saga has been established! That is; the right balance between stopping the whole business while also treating those caught in the middle of it humanely rather than just telling them to bugger off.

Crikey, Rudd’s stuff-up that opened up this whole onshore asylum seeking issue again after it was done and dusted was one of the most monumental political blunders in our national history. I could see this as soon as I heard about it and I said so emphatically on OLO.

He was much worse than just a dud. And now this person looks like he may well become our PM again.

God help us!!
Posted by Ludwig, Thursday, 15 September 2011 10:13:20 AM
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Hi Ludwig,
Where have you been my friend?, I thought that you may have got lost in the tree forests of Qld, or decided to visit two peoples' bay again.
Cheers Ludwig,
NSB
Posted by Noisy Scrub Bird, Thursday, 15 September 2011 6:43:45 PM
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5 PM Tomorrow Tony Abbott will be briefed.
By the very same people who briefed John Howard and his team.
When the Pacific solution was put in place.
That briefing details already announced, will say it is doubtful/unlikely Nehru can be used as it once was.
It too will be said, by the same advisers to Howard, the Malaysian solution, NOT YET TRIED OR STARTED, seems likely to be the best answer.
Remember Malaysia has not been allowed to start/trial because of hight court actions.
Abbott needs to say, will he in government have an opportunity to change these laws.
To defend his right to use offshore processing?
He can say no, my way, let the opposition rule, or no way.
Vote with the GREENS.
And risk his mask falling and AUSTRALIA seeing the true nature of the man.
Tell me conservatives after years of denigrating the boats policy's of Labor.
Years of saying BOB BROWN IS PRIME MINISTER.
WILL AUSTRALIA BELIEVE ANYTHING HE SAYS AGAIN?
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:11:30 PM
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One wonders Belly why you are concerned about TA briefing. Your opinion of him won't change no matter which way he votes. If Ms Gillard/Mr Rudd had the interests of the refugees at stake they would not of changed the policies that worked so well. Maybe Ms Gillard with so much egg on her face for once might swallow a little pride.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 15 September 2011 8:30:48 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/national/dont-give-up-on-deal-malaysia-20110915-1kbzv.html
This link, posted from the land of Insomnia is well worth a read.
Leave your biases at the door.
Look and consider.
This as yet untried, [attempts to send some home failed]idea may have other benefits.
Malaysia may indeed via this deal be opening its door to better treatment of its refugees.
What chance Abbott if he insists on only his way, will one day need to change the law and fail due to his actions.
Compromise is the oil of government.
Who will do that in the future if Abbott will not now?
And do Conservatives want a greens conservative team?
Posted by Belly, Friday, 16 September 2011 4:21:05 AM
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