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Can We Talk ,Should We?

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I've seen the Stat Dec that Bolt referred to in his column and Milne based his comments on. It's not a pretty picture of your Union, belly.

This story has a lot further to run. The stat dec is unequivocal in its language and highly detailed. I'll get a copy of it today if I can and reproduce it here.
Posted by Antiseptic, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 6:08:22 AM
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belly quote..""Look truly at each charge.""

i have belly..and the alp
at federal and state level
is guilty of overseeing a lot of debt
that many [including unionists]..will spend years paying off

""Some are so fantastic no one surely thinks they are true.""

mate look at the bottum line
qld govt...under over ten years under labour
65 billion*...[they spent it mate...on their other NON union mates]
to wit those who support the 2 party machine men

""Rudd/Gillard constructed potholes,""
thats non-sense
""seemingly unaware of the concept party first""

i didnt say that
they are well aware its party first
or rather the party line[ie whatever it takes to keep their true masters[the public service happy...and sitting on the qungo boardrooms

""both miss used me.""
no both serve other masters
not their union membership
nor the rest of the mug voters

only tghose with too much power and money allready

""hands from out side our country
or from with in it,""

both mate[recall beatup beaty..went os to talk to his masters

""conspiracy to remove Labor.""
no conspiricy
but lets admit...the party adgebnda got stolen[highjacked]

""look at Tony Abbott,stand him,
in your minds eye along side Howard Menzies others
find me a past Liberal leader even close to this bloke.""

mate you gotta work with the lemmon you got

""once in power
are you truly sure Abbott will not betray most of us?""

of course not
but mate they are all corrupt
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 9:31:23 AM
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but at least with tony..
you know he isnt there..*for us

juliar actually thinks she has licence
when clearly she dont

people wont forget
we got burned by liers too much

mate you done scrutinisation...look at ryan by election
like i did...

the alp scrutineers were all swarthy greek/young
the lib scruiteners was a young girl..an old guy...and a few other asorted races/sexes...

it was rather blatent..that
the young greks run the numbers..in ryan

""how many potholes
how many years before Labor returns to power.""

mate in time..we will only vote for,..anyone,,,*NOT party
this is the last chance..to see if..the union party

actually cares for unionists

and ends this..drive..of making of over 100 new laws/levies
sucking the very life blood..from their wages

these new laws mate
are any..helping the unionist?

for god sake lexie
LIST THEM..
[you appear to be some public serrvant
so in your flexie time..read some of them]

[have you read even one of them?]
just cause you make new laws..dont mean they are any good
[heck look at the high court overturning her last ones]

if smokers got it together
those laws would be found to be racist like[biased]
based on spin fear and lies too

are these over 100 new laws legal
or just helping drain them unionist fodderr..dry

lib/lab..two sides of the same coin
mired in gren slime
Posted by one under god, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 9:37:30 AM
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Antiseptic you will not find me defending a thief, a union official/officer who is such is less than human.
This event, no evidence will be found because it is not in existence Gillard did any wrong, took place while ago.
My union today is the result of amalgamation and restructuring.
Mostly but not all, for the better.
However ,yes thieves operate in unions, headlines challenge others today.
I have, out of my own pocket, payed bills the union should have, because I had doubts I may have contributed to the bills need, cars mostly.
A man currently,well I think it is still on, is said to have taken hundreds of thousands in bribes.
Like every thing, we are on the take, if you supervise construction you will be aware.
Extra plant get hired every thing from brown paper bags to homes being built, massive theft.
I detest the lot, know more construction supervisors and managers who should be in prison, right along side bent union officials.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 2:53:10 PM
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A similar story http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/australian-workers-union-funds-paid-bill-ludwigs-bills/story-e6freon6-1226130911928

Cost's paid in relation to a legal bill for an action not related to the role in the union.

"Mr Ludwig said the AWU had a long-standing policy that an attack on a union official was an attack on the union.

However, he said the AWU held a meeting regarding the costs incurred in the Carter case. A formal resolution was passed that the union would pay the legal costs, Mr Ludwig said.

Mr Ludwig said he still had a copy of the resolution.

He said union officials lost their private identity when they took on the job of union representation.

"Any attack on them becomes an attack on the union," he said. "That is why their costs are covered"

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Wednesday, 7 September 2011 3:52:35 PM
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RObert I will not lie Bill Ludwig is one of my hero's
He has been charged with nothing, he may never be.
I in defense of my union fought a few battles ,internally, not one more important than my resignation.
In a fight against a flea riding on the back of my union.
If I was in charge of that Great Union, I would put two things in place before stepping aside and letting youth take over.
School and review every current and future officer of the union.
Educate and remind them they are not wanted if the motive for taking the job is not pride in them selves the union and its members , and too industrial relations last and final resort is strike action.
The other?
Halve union membership/overheads/ internal costs/double union membership
Look RObert at the current culture in this country fraud is not a union illness alone.
Posted by Belly, Thursday, 8 September 2011 4:32:03 AM
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