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Lyne to get shot of Oakeshott.

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Some, on both sides, will shake their heads and refuse to agree.
But this Australian government is not as bad as it is painted yet it is doomed.
It has a better front bench and better policy's than its opponents yet it is doomed.
This man is only a straw many exist.
The silence about Rudd's dominance.
The ex NSW failures advising him and my party.
Gillards knife crew, still infest my party, still neglect she can not ever win not ever improve her position.
In a year of reform, a planned new future for my party we let insiders maneuver over? the bones! leadership of my party after defeat!
Now, remember, I you have seen it tens of times here, am blindly biased, LAB RAT!
Take the time to look,read the statements and policy's of our next government, they are that,look now at Australia in 2 years after that election.
Work choices back, a shattered unfocused ALP,a DD election has by then been held and one party again holds both houses.
A castle build on lies,but look!
The foundations are body's of Labor supporters stacked there by those trusted to represent them.
A gutless refusal to say Julia its time.
For get both the lies and my party's gutless act at our country's peril.
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 August 2011 6:50:43 AM
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This was such a blatant piece of propaganda masquerading as "news", I wonder whether it will get a run on Media Watch tonight? Possibly not, as the full expose was done by Crikey, and they are a bit on the nose with the mainstream media.

http://www.crikey.com.au/2011/08/26/the-peculiar-provenance-of-the-port-paper-and-its-polling/

But whatever your protestations, Shadow Minister, even you must recognize that a survey of 448 people, performed by a direct-marketing company, commissioned and published by a thoroughly politically-compromised newspaper, smells to high heaven.
Posted by Pericles, Monday, 29 August 2011 10:08:59 AM
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Belly,
You said,"But this Australian government is not as bad as it is painted yet it is doomed.
It has a better front bench and better policy's than its opponents yet it is doomed".

I must dissagree. The present government is far worse than is painted, I have a list of about 20 major stuff ups that has wasted billions and another came to light the other day. $20 million spent on providing legal aid and advice to the illegal boat people. These shonks have gate crashed our country and we give them this aid!

What policies has been put forward that will benefit Australia? Carbon tax- no, NBN- some only, maybe?

You have no idea yet how a liberal front bench will perform, it could not be worse than the present lot, and the previous lot have a track record of good fiscal management.

One thing I will say, People put too much emphasis on the leader, Gillard is not entirely to blame for the failures, her frontbench should accept some of it. We do not hear enough from ministers. But she became undone with the BIG lie. Got in by deceit, that is unforgivable. Electors will punish that.

I do not think much of Abbott but he will get there by default.

Labor can only blame itself for their current situation.
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:00:01 AM
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Pericles a good link thanks.
You will not get an answer betcha my mate Banjo, and some others will not even read it.
Banjo, yes still mates, your understanding of politics is challenged by quite a lot of your posts.
If you and I, in to our third beer by now leaned on a bar away from goggle we could take a test.
What Position did Kim Beasley dad hold in the Witlam first Cabernet.
But that is one of ten questions off the top of my head.
Considered thought, observation, understanding, and memory's of 7 past Members who left under a cover of white wash in shame.
No questioned needed Banjo, lets deal you and me, lets agree to both Be honest in two years after your mob take power.
One of us is wrong.
PS no cheating! how many shadow portfolios has the mad hatter Joyce held
Posted by Belly, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:40:23 AM
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Pericles,

I am surprised at you. Normally you engage your brain before posting. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you haven't actually read the rest of the thread.

Newspoll is commissioned by The Australian, The Galaxy poll is commissioned by the Courier Mail, etc. These polls are commissioned to reputable companies specifically to avoid petulant claims of bias (plus the advantage of being the first to publish).

Even assuming the worst case scenario that the motivations of The Port newspaper were to humiliate RO, the poll was conducted by an independent research company that stands by its reputation. The biweekly Newspoll which uses responses from about 1200 people country wide is usually pretty spot on, 448 for a single electorate is more than enough.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 29 August 2011 11:46:17 AM
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Just wanted to wrap the mistake between Banjo and me.
Found on entering the site yesterday,every time I had to re enter my details.
Could be anything could be nothing.
I however am the same Belly from other sites before this one.
And the awful spelling ranting one who first came here.
Forrest Gumhp found me, if you looking you can too but lets not.
I have made provisions no one will post under my name if I die.
So lets leave that behind, with a warning!
Be very careful! on line and with your own personal details.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 30 August 2011 8:02:54 AM
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