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Is Australia innovative?

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You who abhor idols,..do you rob the wealth of the temples?

23 You who boast in the law,..
do you dishonor God by breaking the law?

24 As it is written: “God’s name
is blasphemed among the Gentiles because of you.”

25 Circumcision has value
*if you observe the law,..but if you break the law,
you have become..as though you had not been circumcised.

26 So then, if those who are not circumcised keep the law’s requirements,..will they not be regarded as though they were circumcised?

27 The one who is not circumcised physically and yet obeys the law will condemn you who,..even though you have the..written code and circumcision, are a lawbreaker.

28 A person is not a Jew..who is one only outwardly,
nor is circumcision merely outward and physical.

29 No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly;
and circumcision is circumcision of the heart,..by the Spirit,..not by the written code.

Such a person’s praise
is not from other people, but from God.

JUST AS WITH ALL GOOD IDEAS
it is not we who invent truths
but we who invent fairy tales rites process and ritual

but of truth
none is invented...but by in-aspiriation...of him
that good via the good..that of war and destraction/destruction of the jinn

Romans 3
God’s Faithfulness
1 What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way!

First of all, the Jews have been entrusted
with the very words of God.

3 What if some were unfaithful?
Will their unfaithfulness nullify God’s faithfulness?

4 Not at all! Let God be true,
and every human being a liar.

As it is written:

“So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge.”

5 But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.)

6 Certainly not! If that were so,
how could God judge the world?
[by measure of man?]
Posted by one under god, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:02:59 PM
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or the grace mercy good of spirit
conveying the love of god

7 Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?”

8 Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!

No One Is Righteous
9 What shall we conclude then? Do we have any advantage? Not at all! For we have already made the charge that Jews and Gentiles alike are all under the power of sin. 10 As it is written:
“There is no one righteous, not even one;
11 there is no one who understands;
there is no one who seeks God.
12 All have turned away,
they have together become worthless;
there is no one who does good,
not even one.”[b]
13 “Their throats are open graves;
their tongues practice deceit.”[c]
“The poison of vipers is on their lips.”[d]
14 “Their mouths are full of cursing and bitterness.”[e]
15 “Their feet are swift to shed blood;
16 ruin and misery mark their ways,
17 and the way of peace they do not know.”[f]
18 “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

19 Now we know that whatever the law says,
it says to those who are under the law,..so that
every mouth may be silenced and the whole world held accountable to God.

20 Therefore no one will be declared righteous in God’s sight by the works of the law; rather, through the law

we become conscious of our sin.
as well as the sin of br-other
as well as the sinner..in oursel
Posted by one under god, Friday, 26 August 2011 10:05:02 PM
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ok lets return back to inovation...[a funny word eh what?]
ok stand up..take a bow..take your 'ovation'
glory hounds so love glories]..

however inglorious

take mr noble..the inventer of destruction by die-nomite
he claims the patent to much of the worlds destructions
[thus is much honoured in hell]

now see him sitting at his bench in-venting
hoping for his ovation..[ok in-ovation]

ie..the cheers and jeers of his peers

he thinks how can i blow up my wife into little bits
[now all thought is like a magnet]..to think a thought..
is to attract or repell all other thought..[obsess]

so say i now think of this one thought
my thought is like a magnet..that stretches accros the aether
and links up to the other[like minded]..thought

i feel im talking as if in my mind
but the reality is we are conversing with like minds
we in this reality..they in their reality..but both fixated with the in-flux..in-flow[in-spiration]..of our like minded intrest

now how do i get a new thought
only by..the other thought...getting its input
with a flash..a song is born..or a new invention in-vented

i dont expect you to get that the idea
didnt so much come from your mind
as was fed into it..[in spirated]
from the spirit

think of it much like a collective mob madness
where the growd goes insane..but on a more..one to one level

we all have it
have you ever been upset..[or happy]
felt for one instant..you knew everything
its the same thing

we can only grasp that we real-ise
ie know..or know of..ie recognise by our own knowing

bah its so much like throwing pearl before swine
who dont recognise pearl..as an abstract concept
that could feed them for life

if only they could concieve true value
but because they are beasts..it just goes over their heads
in one sows ear..and out the other...[the dont get such basics such as love one and other]

if you never heard of a silken purse
you cant even create a sows ear..[hear?]

no i guess not
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 August 2011 9:47:45 AM
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Is Australia innovative?

Yes Australia is innovative , as well as
being - creative in the Arts. Unfortunately,
the greater majority do not appreciate the
talent and treat it as a threat to the status
quo resulting in our talent turning to overseas
markets for both financial and artistic support.

With our attitude I would not be surprised that
China will take advantage of this as they have
so far demonstrated. In the 60s and 70s our
talent went to the UK and the US. Now its turning
to Asia. Who knows what the future will bring?

Look at our manufacturing industry moving to Asia,
even Qantas is now talking about moving its base to
Asia - if we don't work on productivity to reduce
costs, work on innovation to differentiate our
products overseas from other products, and also work
on the quality of our products - our manufacturing
industries will slowly be unable to compete.
Posted by Lexi, Saturday, 27 August 2011 11:27:52 AM
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lexie..its not about competing..but about seeing the most basic 'advances'..today is ever more about co-operating

its not that you can invent and build a ferrai
but that you can appriciate or afford others 'in-ovating' its creation

its well known..that we all have 'idea's'
but what is the idea..without the means to bring the idea into reality

we have on this forum..[for egsample]..a guy who invented some telephonic switching device[but though he thunk it..he dont own the patent rights[thus dont own the income that came of it]

and if i think of a thing
but dont recieve an ovation..[or material reward]..for thinking it
its not likely i will give it any further thought[and somehow those who only think of making money..only get thoughts..of making money..not an advance on telophony]

its a fact..that alone man [or his/her].ideas..are as nothing
it like even getting the visioon of the idea..begins and ends with a co=operation

and if spirit..dont get any credit
it quite simply is going to not give any more 'in-vention'

it sounds absurd..even to the spirits dictating this to me
but im quite content..to write their word forms for now
knowing its not thinking that comes only from me

[and im quite content for others to say..im mad..
that the words do come from me..but i know its not so..
so i will never claim them as my own..in the main from fear their influx/inflox will end]

we all have the need to be appriciated
from angels to demons..and thus even from god
its perhaps good we cant see..the unseen cause..be-cause
things just might be simpler yet more complex..than they seem

because we all have the cetainty
more shall be given
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 August 2011 2:00:23 PM
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i get reluctant to share the in-flux into my mind
thus prefer to leave much unsaid...but as so much has been freely given me..i feel its only fair i try to give others some votive motive
[by way of ovation][if only in word and thought..

i keep getting a vision
of that world trade center memorial
being some inflow from hell...[i cant even recall how when i saw the darn thing..but its symbology really smells]

so lets reveal the vision...of two dark poo-ls
black dark holes if you will..[one for each tower]
as we aproach the thing it looks like two pools of water

as we stand near it..we hear the sound of water falling[a long way]
what fels like near 18 meters..down a black wall..the black water flows out to the center..where it again plunges downwards

what will ever emerge from them
who can tell..[i could ask my inmagination
but it says...the sceme of the darkones will fail]

is it all imagination
its cetainly not inovation
i guess thats all just as well
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 27 August 2011 2:02:06 PM
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