TBC, is that th best you can come up with.

Sorry about he typos, but I am out bush using an IPad.

Now as for smakin kids, you know exactly what I said and meant, didn't you!

Now just on that topic, we smacked our kids when they did wrong we have two adult kids now and as parents we could not be more proud of them both.

I consider myself a very lucky guy. I have a sole mate for a wife of some 26 years and counting, and we fully intend to grow old gracefully together.

Now f that makes smacking kids such a bad thing then I highly recommend it.

Aha, so when in the bush an ipad fails to work properly, eh?

Interesting, I'll get on to Jobs about that for you.

TBC

When you're out past the black stump, Spell-check fails. Also I think Rehctub was smacked once too often around the ears by his doting parents - would explain a lot.

What is it with people who think plain packaging tobacco is too 'nanny state', but a clip around the ears is acceptable?

Having stopped smoking over 7 years ago, fully endorse the plain packaging. I used to smoke Stuyvesant, soft pack - never did believe in any of that 'light' nicotine B/S. And a soft pack of Stuyvo's were 'cool' in my youth - plain packaging would eradicate all of that image stuff young people are so caught up in.

Ammonite, now what you write makes sense to me.

I did mention the cool factor in one of my posts.

As a feckless (and spotty)youf, who did not smoke having found early how disgusting it was, I know only too well what level of 'cool' is attached by children to adult pursuits.

And to be fair, boozing is in there too. Something I also tried and did not give up, although so long as one does not over-booze, be that in binge drinking or daily always drinking 'a few', then it has some social benefits, although, again, those who do not drink at all are frowned upon by those who do, a very unreasonable situation one feels.

But I thought Ammonite, that maybe the reason the spillchicker did not work past the Black Stump might have been more to do with booze than signals.

I agree with your comments on 'spanking' but hey, look at Malaysia, a few strokes of the birch never hurt anyone, did it?

I'm sure our non-practising Baptist PM would never allow anyone to fall into harms way.

That would be like the AFP handing over drug runners to the Bali police for a bullet in the head, wouldn't it? And we all know THAT would NEVER happen.

Not that a bullet ever hurt anyone, of course.

TBC, I drink and I used to smoke, but I have no beef with anyone who does or does not do either as it is their choice.

When and where they choose to do this, and by which means th money was provided do mean. Something to me.

As for image, are you lot seriously trying to tell me that a kid wont accept a free smoke unless it's a brand they either like, or at least like to look of.
get a grip!

Anyway, we will all know in time, however, I fear if it fails it will be yet another entry into the failures log.

The world of contradictions...makes one think when walking past a smoke shop. You know, when I make eye contact with the venders of legal drugs for the pubic, I do wonder the harm there giving their follow humans:)

I think the human-race needs to have a good look at its self.....Because F.Me...to sell something that harms other people, where is the morals and anything that requires intelligent thinking?

Yes I know......the almighty dollar, and that's the meaning of life.

It only needs just a bit of truth, and one day at a time.

SPY.V.SPY