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Bankers with morals?

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Or just a bunch of grrls?

In the paper today was a story about Westpac pulling out of a finance deal it had entered into for the building of a development that happened to be intended to house a brothel. The writer thought that Westpac "financing a brothel" was hilarious.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/business/westpac-pierced-by-a-stiletto-20110819-1j27c.html

The story said:"sources confirm that Westpac's board and executive had been mortified at being hauled into the public spotlight as brothel financiers, especially in view of the gender of chief executive Gail Kelly and directors Elizabeth Bryan and Carolyn Hewson."

Now, I'm not sure what the gender of the directors has to do with the business decision, which had apparently withstood the scrutiny of the bank in the first place.

Can anybody enlighten me?

In another story elsewhere, Peter Beatty claims that female politicians are treated differently because of their gender, implying that this is unfair and has no relevance to their capacity to make good decisions, so why should the gender of these three directors have any impact on the bank's business decision to lend money?

I bank with both Westpac and Commonwealth and the gender of the boards has never been a subject I've considered as relevant to the banking decision. If they are to start playing gender games, perhaps I should reconsider my view. It surprises me that Gail Kelly would allow her name to be used in thsi way. If ever there was a female executive who's achieved on her own merits, she's the one.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 10:38:09 AM
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LOL

Given the sort of chaos bankers have spread across the globe in the past few years I would have thought financing a new whorehouse was quite harmless.

BTW I consider prostitutes intrinsically more honest than bankers. With a prostitute you know what you're getting. There's no fine print.
Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 21 August 2011 9:52:17 AM
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I agree but Antiseptic they may well still finance it.
By becoming its best customers.
Why have we let sex be seen as so bad, if our private lives became public we would see the hypocrisy here.
Bet they fund Casinos or places pokers machines live.
No worries getting finance for high interest rate lenders .
Posted by Belly, Sunday, 21 August 2011 11:41:03 AM
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Bankers with morals?

there are few words that are more disconnected from each other than these three.
Posted by individual, Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:51:41 PM
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*Now, I'm not sure what the gender of the directors has to do with the business decision,*

That is fairly easy to explain, Antiseptic. Brands matter, they
have value. What those pesky customers think matters, no matter
what the directors think.

So Gail Gelly, who is clearly a pragmatic sort of person, would
most likely have no problem at all financing a brothel. But
when the press got hold of it and made it a story, no doubt a
heap of feminist customers would have contacted the bank and
expressed their outrage.

So the bank would be caught between a rock and a hard place,
through no fault of their own. Would it have been a story if
a bank with a male CEO financed the brothel? Far less likely.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:57:28 PM
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I don't think we should go into the relative merits of bankers and prostitutes. I think the comparison with pimps is more accurate, on the whole, which makes the whole brothel issue rather a contradiction.

Yabby:"Would it have been a story if
a bank with a male CEO financed the brothel?"

That was my point. Why? I understand your point about feminist agitation, but why should this bother a bank making a lending decision and moreover why does the gender of the CEO and some directors matter?

Even more fundamentally, what is the feminist issue here that the bank felt might cause trouble? Any of the feminists here care to have a go?
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 3:05:42 PM
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*That was my point. Why?*

Antiseptic, the press clearly saw the amusing and controversial
side of the story, ie powerful women bankrolling a brothel. The
press thrives on controversy, so they made a story out of it, which
created a problem for Westpac, for suddenly every feminist customer
would have been aware of it. How many rang to complain we don't know. As the customer is always right, Westpac had to deal with
it as best they could.

Men bankrolling a brothel would hardly create a story that sells
newspapers.
Posted by Yabby, Sunday, 21 August 2011 3:34:13 PM
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We've been told that women on boards are supposed to add value and improve the board's decision-making.

That's the rhetoric. It seems that having women on Westpac's board has robbed shareholders of a perfectly good business opportunity. The bank made it clear that the gender of just 3 of its directors was the specific reason for the decision to withdraw the offer of financing a perfectly legal and no doubt profitable development opportunity. This decision has directly reduced shareholder value.

Aren't boards supposed to "enhance shareholder value"? If this had been a proposal for a development containing a male sex club would the gender of the (majority) of the directors been important and would it have resulted in the loss of the business?

Let's get real here, ladies.
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:03:52 PM
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Answering a question with question is the norm round here....what are you saying? and what in all " truth" are you or have with a point, and not some kind of game.

If money makers had a sole...they would consider that their efforts are in a small group that individuates, rather than what they reluctantly think:)....

Its a hard world:)....but should it be?......maybe we should leave the system as it is.

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:42:36 AM
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If money makers had a sole.
Quantumleap,
Barefoot or wearing shoes ??
Posted by individual, Monday, 22 August 2011 5:20:43 AM
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LOL...I guess I could of called them a flounder, but soles are on the same level:) Very tasty I might add:).....However if they did have a soul or a shred of common decency among them, they might not of had that fishy smell about them, where ever they go.

:/ Bankers with morals?

I started to chuckle as soon as I layed eyes on it.

Now I might see the point of having one of those pit bulls around:)

LEAP
Posted by Quantumleap, Monday, 22 August 2011 12:36:00 PM
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Bankers with morals?
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Is this a trick question? :)
Posted by RawMustard, Wednesday, 24 August 2011 9:53:19 PM
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