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Posted by Quantumleap, Saturday, 20 August 2011 2:18:30 AM
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Belly, my dogs have never been trained to attack or bark at anyone. Max reacts to Africans for reasons of his own, and so do the dogs of other friends who've been here when an African person has walked past.
I've already suggested the possibility that people coming from long-term war zones may see dogs as a threat because of the number of feral dogs that must be present in such an environment. I've known Vietnamese people who came here as refugees who have the same terror around unrestrained dogs. A friend suggested another explanation, which I haven't looked into much as yet, which is that perhaps dogs were domesticated after humans left Africa and so the breeds have been developed to respond to a version of humanity that is Eurasian. Given that dogs have very sensitive olfactory systems, they may react to people with slightly different genetics in different ways. Given the way they react to dogs from other packs, this makes some sense to me as well. It might even just be a difference in diet and hence body odor that the dog can smell. I don't think it has anything to do with colour, as Belly suggests. Dogs are largely colour-blind and colour plays no part in their social interactions, unlike humans. Wikipedia suggests that dogs were first domesticated about 30,000 years ago in East Asia from gray wolves (Canis Lupus), which might support the hypothesis. If so, it makes it all the more important for dog owners to be vigilant of their pets given the vast increase in African people living here. And get rid of the insults to the species, like pit bulls. Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 3:41:00 AM
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I think I'm onto something. The basenji is an African native breed. It is known as a "primitive" dog, in that it shares many wolf-like characteristics and behaviours, while having little attachment to humans, unlike most European/Asian breeds.
They're also known to be less responsive to training. In common with some of the other "pariah dog" breeds, they normally live as semi-feral "village dogs" rather than being attached to any one person. They seldom bark and rarely show any affection for people. Perhaps Africans are simply acclimated to a view of dogs as nuisances/dangerous and this affects the way they react around dogs in general and hence the way dogs react to them? Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 4:19:25 AM
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Ant man, I must say.....I do disagree with what logic you present. So any that's black, is what the owner teaches the poor animal, and you are going to say, back to smelliness comments of retarded thought process that no-one would ever except. This type of jelly-fish processes can not be excepted in the land of real. Man is smarter than dog! or do you two wish to back to the time, which your foreheads may show the skills you both possess.
The owner is the capital bridge carrier, of the owner which has the time period, as the pup....which I don't think any-one which takes such risks with anything like that, would be the blood hunting flea-bag, that most % wise, are very loved pets. Its the owners......that makes the pooches, what they are. A quote from a US judge that's done time.. and I say " One can be judged from what environment he comes from, but the place your born in, makes all the difference..... but of course, the man was just human:).....and he said it with a smile. You want to see animal, just watch your own T.V/PC/Cable:) Plenty for you all to get to know one another:) All the best... LEAP Posted by Quantumleap, Saturday, 20 August 2011 5:08:58 AM
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A little more about Sudan and dogs
http://www.sudanradio.org/campaign-free-rabies-vaccination-dogs-juba-launched “This campaign is for the vaccination of dogs against the rabies disease, because we know that rabies disease can affect animals and the human beings. That is why we start this campaign today the eleventh of April till the sixteen of April. We always carry out the vaccination but still there are some dogs that are not vaccinated so we want to make this vaccination to cover all the families that have dogs. The way for this vaccination is this we have divided Juba into centers our team will go to the Centre and will stay there for one day. If it is in your area you will take your dog to the centre and you will get our team members there then they will vaccinate your dog. And if you come to us here in Malakia clinic also there are people waiting there they can vaccinate your dog, the vaccination is free of charge.” However Mister Fonsianu said that the problem of dogs without owners will be tackled, as officials will kill street dogs." So rabies is a significant problem. The smart thing for someone living in a country where rabies is prevalent is to avoid dogs that show any form of aggression. QL, you're obviously finding this difficult to follow. You'll find the following link much easier http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/health/sanctimonious-tools-live-longer-201108174205/ Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 20 August 2011 6:03:04 AM
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QL I am making a big effort to get on with you bloke.
And I will continue to, but just having difficulty following your posts this morning, maybe its me? Anti, sorry but no owner should not do, every thing they can, to stop dogs racially profiling pedestrians, and not trying to be funny. How many mate, victims both dead badly bitten, or minor are just the white next door neighbors or visitors. Bare with me,on hearing the word dog , mans best Friend, the best of us think of our mate a pal loyal and there at our feet. Here on the edge of the NSW Great Dividing range, dogs live in bush homes shanty's caves, are sometimes owned by drug growers to protect a crop. Look on the back of Utes on Saturday, see the tail wagers just begging for a scratch from the boss. But see too the lunatic snarling hate filled chain stretching property of a fool. Blame the owners before the dog but remember those dead children. Posted by Belly, Saturday, 20 August 2011 6:13:54 AM
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I see the angry, armed with garden implements, coming at anything with a set of testicle....ouch!.....pleaseezzzz...the answer has been given.
A good hunting dog is hard to find now-days, and I do agree Sue in what most would call for, and that's Manslaughter in the case of any human being effected in the way of death, as it is.
I've pig hunted myself with dogs of that nature, and this is what and how things are done, in the bush.
So the solution is given more so, and the owner will pay for the damage.
Jail time.....fair is fair.....
Responsibility is what it is, and the photo Lic and registration costs will be the last call for those that don't understand....or don't drop the soap:)
LEAP