http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/police-launch-inquiry-over-claims-senior-cop-has-cocaine-habit/story-e6freuzi-1226114478238
I have always been concerned about story's like the one this link leads to.
And thought/knew it is one of thousands of cases such as this.
It seems that high income earners police politicians get far more rope than ordinary folk.
And that time served in prison for such,if any is minor in comparison with others.
Once, unpalatable as it will be for some, every country town was convinced being a Mason made the difference.
I do not think they have the numbers now, to hold such power
Other than cash and status what gives the inside running before the courts to such, why is it taking so long to charge.
NSW has just found its once Senior investigative police officer guilty of trying to import many millions of dollars worth of drugs,

the scales of just us
means some go through life with scales on their eyes

as a son of a mason..i watched double standards first hand
[his mates actually said after they booked me for a matchbox of cannabis..'oh if we knew you were a's son...']guess the rest

next i got a mason lawyer
who said plead gulty..and you only get a fine
then i got a non mason judge..he said go to jail for 3 months

not bad for a first offence
[i even paid the 150 fine for a bong
they 'got' without a warrent..[i learned much about law]

and police selling drugs is how the game goes
[think if you like free hookers..you go into vice
if you love free drugs you go into drug squad
if your a sadist you go special ops

guess where the kiddy lovers CHOSE to go?

justice continues its blind cascade
police search without warrents
or arrest and lock me away for 8 hours

a lawyer says take the jail time now
and the rest will be called 'served'
then reality..serve out the next sentance..on top

you learn plenty in 60 years
like...justice choses to be blind

by law a plant in the ground..belongs to the ground
legally its called a fixture..

[as opposed to a tradeable commodity called a fungable]...
yet the thieves rip the plant from the ground
[creating a fungable]..

and an ignorant law
says the fixture..to be fungable]

then we get a dude..[or sheila]..done a 5 day course

to call a plant a drug..
and because he/she certified a plant..to BE a drug
its a drug...

[noting in qld alone..in 1999 37,545 kids
became criminal by justice such as this]

one percent each year criminalised for life
by the lie of a plant..DEEMED to be a drug

tom burns PROMISED voting for labratters party
would get rid of this bad law..[CAUSE he said its labratters policy]

then along came wayne gloss
or some other dropin...when tom and the lab partly
were sure to win..via some backdoor backroom deal
that allowed lawyers to collect 'legal aid'..for gulty pleas
[i ran the numbers 10 guilty pleas a day..gets them 3000 a day]

then in time
get enough guilty pleas
and they make you the judge

then along came wayne gloss.
OUG,
for what it's worth, Wayne Goss was to Qld what Gough Whitlam was to the country and it's not complimentary at all.
Under their leadership the wheels started to wobble & Anna Bligh & Julia Gillard have removed the wheel nuts.

OUG it was just a thought not an inference about Masons.
In my last two jobs over just over 30 years I attended meeting in their HQ it survives on being a conference center.
Those meetings took place in every room, the walls covered with paintings and photos of every level of the judiciary and police.
In fact the NSW RTA seemed have quite a few members, it was the meetings and far better places existed to hold them.
White collar criminals seem to take massive amounts of money but spend less, or no ,time in prison, while Young folk get 2 years for passing wind.
I saw government bosses let resign and not be charged but worker sacked for stealing 20 liters of fuel.
Is there, as I believe, one law for the rich another for normal folk?

belly...""OUG..it was just a thought
not an inference..about Masons.""

yes i know that...[for you]

for me its personal..my fathers mason mates helped kill my dad
[thats how i see the stress that gave him his first heart attack when i went to jail for letting a plant grow]

here was a lawyer..ss/cumm...charged me a fee
told me to plead guilty...and me the mug..paying extra via fines

looosing my house my father
and the kids...who were picked on by their peers
who ever since have addressed their father as the druggie
[i lived through a loveless marrage,..to be a 'father' for them for 35 years]

so mate..for me its personal

""I attended meeting in their HQ
it survives..on being a conference center.""

mate i been there
its a huge multistory building
many discrete private rooms...for the public/service
to decide which party .ext..gets in

so the public/servants..sitting on too many
sports rorts boards..can get their free credit cards...and free travel...yes the public/servace is a great joke..[and masonic creed fits in there..somewhere]

""the walls..covered with paintings
and photos..of every level of the judiciary..and police.""

yes the rouges galleries

they so love the honours[do you want to make me an offer..on the old mans plastic lap lap..and massonic books?

""In fact the NSW/RTA seemed have quite a few members,""

no doudt mate
except we should be foc/cussing..on the blindness of just us

""White collar criminals seem to take massive amounts
of money but spend less,or no,time in prison,
while Young folk..get 2 years for passing wind.""

all true mate
so what can we do

nothing..i tried waking up the court many times
but they KNOW..they got it all..in the bag
and who knows better..where all the bodies are

""Is there,as I believe,
one law for the rich another for normal folk?""

there is mr bell
but look at what happend to the unions

just like all..the other masonic style groups
to speak for those..who darnt talk for themselves[NOT}.

yes indeed
the weak and meak..have inherited the earth
may god have mercy on their souls

I am quite sure, the very little I know about Masons some are very good people OUG.
It was not my intention to other than report small town views about perceived favoritism from and to Masons.
I do not know what you do, in fact know nothing about them.
I do however think white collar crime is not punished as harshly as other.
I think police in trouble get much better treatment than those they caught in their working life.
And never understood the big sum defrauders who get the inside running because of? education/background maybe?
It would be wrong for me to comment on what you say here in too much depth.
We both know it is illegal, but your story a match box and one plant?
Would not get you a smack today.
Once, but trust me a very long time ago, I like great numbers smoked wacky backy.
Not sorry or proud but life is my high and a Rum or two.
By the way, nice bloke had much more than a match box on him always.
Sold it to me and others, until he was arrested by his workmates, he was a police officer.

belly...""the very little I know about Masons
some are very good people OUG.""

mate i love em
they often know egsactly what im saying
i can admire yet despise at the same time
cause i dont let either change how i feel..about the things they 'do'

i know often good people do bad things
and som,etimes bad people do good things
its the things i hate..not who done it

''It was not my intention to other than report"'
i a[ppriciate your first hand life experiences[mr bell]
but know we each have had our own life experiences
its amasing we can agree as often as we did

''I do however think white collar crime
is not punished as harshly as other.""

it makes all the difference to have a lawyer
and a barister in court[often the poor only got legal aid
[that is based on the aborigonal legal aid 'service'
that was formed to 'help them not waste the courts time]

i was actually in court at the coat of arms case
the judge there..reminded kevin buzzcotts lawyer
that he IS a servant of the court..!

to remember who he is

""I think police in trouble get much better treatment""

mate as you know..its often not what you know
but who you know...not who knows you

""the big sum defrauders
who get the inside running because of?""

fraud means you planned things
if part of the 'planning' was to put some cash in the solicetors trust fund...you allready planned it better than any kid stealing a mars bar can.

""education/background maybe?""

i favour the dutch saying
what the kids say/do in the street
the parents say/do in the house

''It would be wrong for me to comment on
what you say here in too much depth.''

never ol mate
i only say what i fel might help others understand
why im sometimes a bit cryptic[skelitons]

""your story a match box and one plant?""

the matchbox was three big leaves i gave to my sister in law
my dads mates busted her..said where did you get it from
she said me[why lie]..so they said i deal in drugs

they took away 30 plants
made this really funny joke
''luckey you didnt run''[i was on my war to army reserve at 6 am]
''cause our mates smith and western would have got you'

i didnt even know what that meant[at the time]
still didnt figure that one out till i was in my mid forties
[i dont watch that sort of movie]

''Would not get you a smack today.''
back then it was up to 25 years

but if it hadnt happend i would still be ignorant
of how vile others can be..

to those they regard..as less than they are
i have refought the case many times since then

its a learning experrience
here i get 3 mths jail

in canbera the same..got me a 50 dollar fine
it cost more..to fly there..3 times to fight it

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/top-cops-in-drug-shame-officers-allegedly-fail-cocaine-test/story-e6freuzi-1226115505589
Maybe it was my reference to Masons.
But while the thread stumbles these links spotlight favoritism can take place.
These very Senior NSW police, have probably sent many drug offenders to prison.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/sydney-nsw/mark-standens-friend-dianne-jalalaty-had-a-get-out-of-jail-free-card/story-e6freuzi-1226115512848
While I am aware of the impacts of not rewarding informers I wounder who is served by these actions.
I would like to put this to readers, we constantly kick our politicians.
But this is sections at the very top of those we trust to defend us.
A good and honest cop is worth far more than we could ever afford to pay them.
Increasingly it is hard to tell one from the other.

i keep hoping others will join in

never the less

QUOTE..'"While I am aware of the impacts
of not rewarding informers""

others might not be as aware
do you mean..how some get off
by dobbing in others?

""I wounder who is served by these actions.""

in the main the dpp
who get a witness..[even if he/she is lying]
and blamming others..for things they actually did

one knows nothing..thus cant plea bargin
the other knows it all..and his lawyer negotiates
[ps negotiation is a vital step in the system of justice
[but i have never been negotiated with..that alone would invalidate the law]..guess thats why they didnt

[as was written in issiah
'set the prisoners free''
the only words jesus actually read
direct from the scroll in a temple..

drugs are a law of civil juristiction
not criminal..the only true law is the law..that compensates victimhood

statute law only applies to those
seeking advantage/powers..['under the act']

but by the clever phrase..of 'person'
ie a fiction created by an act
fools ignorantly claim their 'personhood'
little knowing thats a coorperate fiction

[no persons live]
YOU are NOT 'a person'
you have created person's
[each time we applied for 'benifits'/under the act]

you ARE the trustee OVER your persons
ie your driver licence [person]
your marrage act person[husband/wife]
your birth person[shattle 'berthed'..[landed
ie emerged out of wthe waters..like all importaed shattles are]

even imagrants are 'person'
you as living spirit..hold a sacred DUTY over your 'persons'

further should be mentioned
re 'not taking oath'

matthew 23;16-25..[noting specificly james 5;8-20

noting that an oath..CREATED your persons
[ie you app-LIED..for a licence]
YOU swore the info true and correct[in writting[ie an oath]

law is based on bennifit
presuming we wont apply for a lower[under *standing]
than we are entitled to

thus if you think being a person under the act
means your under the act..why does your licence get suspended?

we ARNT persons
never should have lied..[applied..ie begged]
thats what applied means

but the true law isnt taught
it is tort[civil statute]..only applying over corperate fictions

criminal law is the only true law
to compensate a victim

the dead cant be hurt
thus cant be victim[cant claim victim higherr *standing

yet the first question judges ask you
do you UNDER *stand

no your honour
there is no victim

and i cant swear anything true or faulse

""we constantly kick our politicians.
But this is sections
at the very top
of those we trust to defend us.""

too true mr bell
as most are or were layers
THE SHOULD KNOW BETTER..!

when we 'vote'..we are creating a situation of trust
we are appointing 'a trustee'..to handle govt matters 'on our behalf'

thus by voting underr the act
we stand 'under'..the act[which being dead]
implies we are mind dead

[and need to elect an elect..
to care for us legal imbisiles]

BUT THEY HAVE A LAWFULL 'duty of care"

the same applies in court
when we are so incompitant[the legal term is imbisile]
so as to require a trustee to speak for us]

just as a dead corperation[a person]..needs a living being..to 'speak'..on 'its' behalf

its simple to grasp
once you realise only imbisiles claim to be a person

[note a dead 'person]..is written in capital letters
because now its dead
living beings write in red[blood red]
royals write in purple ink

corperation in black ink[to signify they arnt living]
and sick people are recorded in blue ink

""A good and honest cop
is worth far more than we could ever afford to pay them.""

yes thats why we got ignorants
enforcing 'policy'..instead of law
by threat of force

but the court should know better
but even there its run by people with no clue of true law
[thats why hell is full of lawyers/judges]
recall jesus said about judging 'others'

them wearing wigs and dresses should have been a clue
""Increasingly it is hard to tell one from the other.""

not really
it simply needs be taught in school
failing to do so is willfull negligence

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/james-murdoch-set-for-recall-by-commons-over-phone-hacking-scandal/story-e6frg996-1226116351376
This too fits my claims.
They are that power/ Privilege/cronyism/ and the ability to reward for service, can buy the law.
Not yet over but from the very heart of this groups Australian flagship it, at least, highlights a difference in attitude of those who fit one of the descriptions.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/aug/16/phone-hacking-now-reporter-letter
This link too expresses my views about the law power and privilege.
It printed at the same time as the link to the Australian,informs us that first link, is heavily edited.
Much was not printed, while thread did not get an audience it in my view warns us all, be aware.
Media is little more than some ones self interest printed as news.
I am more than interested what the future will bring after this emerging scandal changes media forever, it will do that!

Just mention the sexual differences in sentencing, particularly when the children's welfare card is played, I'm sure Anti will join in...

As to when will it stop?

Who knows? The "church" sold indulgences, the ancient temples accepted nice big fat offerings from wrongdoers, kings pardoned culpable robber-barons who nonetheless served the interests of the king.

will it stop? not for thousands of years, at least.

Rusty

I think RC I killed the thread with an off the cuff remark about the Masons.
That even if they are slowly dieing is unwise in a forum that has middle to high income earners for the most part.
But adds a log to my fire.
We toss and turn on lies politicians use like toilet paper, everyday,
But seem unconcerned at the fact,justice truly is blind.
Not in the way it claims, but blind to the crimes of some.
5 months in prison! for a mum sleeping ,for taking stolen goods, fixed now.
But after a week in prison and some do not get that much time for fraud involving thousands?

There's no "justice" in Australia, just the Law. Anybody who gets the two confused is in for a nasty shock if they come up against the latter and they're not in the predetermined classes of "acceptable victims", one of which is based on gender, as Rusty pointed out.

The fact is that the Law in the form of statutes creates, willy-nilly, winners and losers. The Common Law is the closest approach there has been to achieving a system of laws in which the values of the community with respect to justice and fairness have primacy. Governments don't much like the Common Law - there's too much chance that the community's values might not match the Government's preferred outcomes, so they create Stautes to override the Common Law principles that have evolved over centuries.

As for the protection of senior figures from prosecution, that occurs outside the Law and is the province of corrupt officials. Sadly, the rise of Social Constructionalism as a sociological concept driving politics has meant that there is an ever-greater disjoint between what the community might regard as acceptable and what politicians do. After all, if it's all just "constructed" anyway, there's no reason that my "construction" is any worse than yours.

I don't think the Masons have much to do with it though. I was invited to join a few years ago, as the school I attended has one of the most active Lodges in Qld associated with it. They rarely manage to get more than a handful of new recruits out of any given year group though. I wasn't one of them.

Given the number of empty Masonic Lodges around the country I'd reckon the group is well past its use-by date.

i dont agree that the thread is dead
and agree with rusty

but must disagree with anti [in this case]
the lodges 'look' empty..but thats not to say they wernt used
or still are not being used[but only that it did what it had to do]

and now they dont need a whole lodge
now they meet..'in private'

its not that justrice is blind
but that its a selective blindness
[take that key 'member'..who calls prostitutes..on his union credit card..you dont get to do that..unless you know the fix is in]

and it is
to get [party nomination..you need the numbers
and guess what ..to 'get' the numbers you need mates
you need people to put their trust in you..just as you need to trust others

and what better than an apex..or a rotery..or masonic order

its funny..how the masons have a creed
[in gold we trust]..so if you look at a dollar bill
that says in god we trust...guess whos god is gold

the masons rule the material realm
and while the masonic order was the means
it has since gone underground..but the same fools still rule the roost

in here..[satans realm]
and the lower levels of the next realm as well
and perhaps the few chosen rule the higher levels as well..
cause mason dont mean vile..it just means one who seeks an order
cause many are mindless..and prefer organised disorder..to no order

Both comments have points of interest.
Now surfing my water, daily papers I go back to the best days of my life fishing on the NSW north coast.
Their local paper is a favorite and they, Masons want to sell their lodge council wants to keep it, empty.
Anti you know I do too, dads get shafted by our family law courts every time.
I am a supporter of such groups, dads that is, I have seen a mum, not rare, with the sex life of three women of ill repute, get her kids .
And stop dad seeing them, ever.
He won case after case against her, won custody of the kids,she defied the court.
Under threat of prison she took those kids 4 and 6 and bolted.
She was never found by police, I found her, 18 years and ten blokes after.
Had it been the dad?
Headlines would scream for months.
Those young men, know mum is a bit too free with her favors.
But thought and still do, their dad is dead.

http://www.smh.com.au/world/mps-ask-if-editors-payments-broke-law-20110824-1ja9m.html
As is in the western world so it is all over the world.
The answer is yes.
Very clearly unquestionably yes.
This link deals in great amounts of money.
Another here talks of a woman sent to prison for 5 months .
OH yes it was fixed but what if not blindness saw one working at the highest level and one so dreadfully treated.

http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/time-and-again-drug-money-corrupts-even-our-finest-20110824-1ja55.html
The links are to actual events, things that have taken place.
We every one of us, need to see we can no longer gloat about the corruption in other country's.
We should be frear stricken by the very real damage our whole way of life is faced with because of greed.
I was going to write more, about our apathy in this matter.
But just could not be bothered.

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2011/08/27/275575_news.html
This story truly stunned me.
I know nothing about it.
And I make no claims as to guilt or lack of it.
But in a weird deja vue? way I lived in it.
Almost word for word,except the death.
And in NSW Country not Victoria, we talk of it still.
The drinking the favored panel beater who is as described the card games in his shed, free booze.
20 years have past and other towns far away lived it too?

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/top-judge-outraged-by-plea-bargain-deals-20110831-1jm4v.html
Blind? or for sale.