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London Burning

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wise words per ridicules
but mate these are the times of collective insanity
[your banking mates took their scam too far]

You have the power to cripple national consumerism.

Yes, You.

Walk away.

Walk away from mortgages, interest, fees, taxes and materialism.

First you must begin to look at your relationship with the paper in your wallet. You have to let it go. Money is fake and they give it in small amounts, then take it back in bigger amounts.

Always leaving you working your @ass off for a few material goods.
bought on 'credit'..intrest free till you miss a payment
when the whole lot with ursury comes due
and the fool con-sumers dont got a clue

Is it worth it?
Do you feel better or bigger or happier in your lexus?

Does it change your family dynamics
or the relationship with your wife?

You have to let it go.
Stop playing in the playground,
it's designed to never let you win. Why keep playing?

if you got nothing left to loose
you think [delusion]..you got everything to gain

[and in jail you get 3 square meals a day]

id put up links
but your too stuborn to read anything
thats a symp-tom....of a men-tall dis-ease

anyhow you just gotta laugh
men take things too seriously

no one can own 'anything'..or conive to enslave everyone
and stil claim to be sane..in insane times

your leaders were given proofs
the bankers were told

now chickens go home to roost
in time we will all see the joke
and die laughing...death where is thy sting*
[you got no tail]

anyhow what to play as lon-don burns

the wall?
or the writing..on the wall
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:48:34 AM
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Pericles:"Just blather away."

Thanks, I shall. Feel free to join in if you feel so moved. We might even learn something.

As one of those who's not been near London I'd be loath to comment too specifically, but aren't the riots basically a product of the same sort of tribalism and disadvantage that lead to the poll tax riots and the rise of football hooliganism and the last Brixton riots and so on?

If so, how can they be simplistically addressed? Essentially they're structural and they require structural changes. Such measures are always hard and usually expensive in one way or another, especially politically. How does an uneasy coalition deal with such matters?

Is there a lesson for Australia, or are the circumstances too different?
Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 1:17:05 PM
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Pastor James Manning talks about what happens when Black people are left unto themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdRDgXUgGAs
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 2:43:59 PM
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extracted from
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=16344

The Dow Jones has plunged several hundred points in the past month, and this plunge accelerated after the debt deal compromise was announced. Only rumors of yet another QE have stalled the implosion:

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/dow-falls-sharply-even-after-debt-deal-passes

HSBC; global banking behemoth, known silver market manipulator, and now layoff central, as they announce 30,000 new job cuts. Gotta’ love HSBC:

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/uk-hsbc-idUKTRE76U0VB20110801

U.S. manufacturing fell off a cliff last month, posting the slowest growth in two years:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/us-usa-economy-idUSTRE7662I420110801

Home prices continue to spiral into the abyss as some banks decide to bulldoze properties and give them away to local municipalities rather than suffer the headache of trying to sell them:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-26/home-prices-in-20-u-s-cities-fell-4-5-in-year-to-may-case-shiller-says.html

http://news.yahoo.com/bulldoze-way-foreclose-102000063.html

The service sector, which accounts for at least 70% of the U.S. economy, has posted a steep decline in growth not seen since February of 2010:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/03/us-usa-economy-services-idUSTRE7723H120110803

U.S. consumers tightened their wallets this summer after two years of riding the recovery farce, signaling a sizable contraction in an economy dependent on constant spending:

http://news.yahoo.com/americans-cut-spending-first-time-20-months-123819626.html

Cities across the country are edging towards insolvency, as the municipal markets finally give way to lack of investment:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cashstrapped-RI-city-files-apf-1809896377.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=7&asset=&ccode=

And finally, Vladimir Putin froths at the mouth telling a bunch of kids at a Russian summer camp that the U.S. is a “parasite on the global economy”, and that the dollar’s monopoly must end. China, of course, agrees:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/us-russia-putin-usa-idUSTRE77052R20110801

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-03/china-s-zhou-to-monitor-u-s-debt-as-xinhua-sees-bomb-yet-to-be-defused.html

So many negative economic indicators
in such a short period of time,

all while the debt ceiling debate is raging?
What does this mean?
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=16344

what really is happening
http://whatreallyhappened.com/
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 3:02:51 PM
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I haven't seen the reports, but I imagine that the value of imported reggae-making capacity more than outweighs the value of whatever was burnt, torn up, or carried away.
Posted by Peter Hume, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 3:05:56 PM
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Apparently what started a day earlier
as a peaceful protest over a death of a
local man shot dead by police,
ended with rioting, and extreme violence.

According to Lateline and The Guardian,
this incident is more about looting
than protest. Its about opportunists
taking advantage of a police force stretched
to the limit. "Mainly young people using
rocks and bottles, police responding with
baton charges and dogs." However once the
extreme violence took place they moved the
appropriate level of resources in.

26 years ago the area was blightef by riots
triggered by the death of a local woman
during a police search. In the violence that
followed back then, a policeman was killed.

David Lammy, British Labor MP, summed up
the situation this way:

"We now need restraint and calm. And I say
to those who wanted to come to Tottenham to
cause violence and disturbance to stay away,
we don't need you. We don't want 25 years of
rebuilding community and trust destroyed
because of mindless nonsense."

Fingers-crossed that the situation will be
brought under control for the sake of the
communities, and people, involved.
Our prayers go with them all.

extreme violence took place - police moved
the appropriate level of resources in
Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 3:10:20 PM
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