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Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 11:48:34 AM
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Pericles:"Just blather away."
Thanks, I shall. Feel free to join in if you feel so moved. We might even learn something. As one of those who's not been near London I'd be loath to comment too specifically, but aren't the riots basically a product of the same sort of tribalism and disadvantage that lead to the poll tax riots and the rise of football hooliganism and the last Brixton riots and so on? If so, how can they be simplistically addressed? Essentially they're structural and they require structural changes. Such measures are always hard and usually expensive in one way or another, especially politically. How does an uneasy coalition deal with such matters? Is there a lesson for Australia, or are the circumstances too different? Posted by Antiseptic, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 1:17:05 PM
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Pastor James Manning talks about what happens when Black people are left unto themselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdRDgXUgGAs Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 2:43:59 PM
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extracted from
http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=16344 The Dow Jones has plunged several hundred points in the past month, and this plunge accelerated after the debt deal compromise was announced. Only rumors of yet another QE have stalled the implosion: http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz-in-national/dow-falls-sharply-even-after-debt-deal-passes HSBC; global banking behemoth, known silver market manipulator, and now layoff central, as they announce 30,000 new job cuts. Gotta’ love HSBC: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/uk-hsbc-idUKTRE76U0VB20110801 U.S. manufacturing fell off a cliff last month, posting the slowest growth in two years: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/us-usa-economy-idUSTRE7662I420110801 Home prices continue to spiral into the abyss as some banks decide to bulldoze properties and give them away to local municipalities rather than suffer the headache of trying to sell them: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-07-26/home-prices-in-20-u-s-cities-fell-4-5-in-year-to-may-case-shiller-says.html http://news.yahoo.com/bulldoze-way-foreclose-102000063.html The service sector, which accounts for at least 70% of the U.S. economy, has posted a steep decline in growth not seen since February of 2010: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/03/us-usa-economy-services-idUSTRE7723H120110803 U.S. consumers tightened their wallets this summer after two years of riding the recovery farce, signaling a sizable contraction in an economy dependent on constant spending: http://news.yahoo.com/americans-cut-spending-first-time-20-months-123819626.html Cities across the country are edging towards insolvency, as the municipal markets finally give way to lack of investment: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Cashstrapped-RI-city-files-apf-1809896377.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=7&asset=&ccode= And finally, Vladimir Putin froths at the mouth telling a bunch of kids at a Russian summer camp that the U.S. is a “parasite on the global economy”, and that the dollar’s monopoly must end. China, of course, agrees: http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/01/us-russia-putin-usa-idUSTRE77052R20110801 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-03/china-s-zhou-to-monitor-u-s-debt-as-xinhua-sees-bomb-yet-to-be-defused.html So many negative economic indicators in such a short period of time, all while the debt ceiling debate is raging? What does this mean? http://republicbroadcasting.org/?p=16344 what really is happening http://whatreallyhappened.com/ Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 3:02:51 PM
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I haven't seen the reports, but I imagine that the value of imported reggae-making capacity more than outweighs the value of whatever was burnt, torn up, or carried away.
Posted by Peter Hume, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 3:05:56 PM
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Apparently what started a day earlier
as a peaceful protest over a death of a local man shot dead by police, ended with rioting, and extreme violence. According to Lateline and The Guardian, this incident is more about looting than protest. Its about opportunists taking advantage of a police force stretched to the limit. "Mainly young people using rocks and bottles, police responding with baton charges and dogs." However once the extreme violence took place they moved the appropriate level of resources in. 26 years ago the area was blightef by riots triggered by the death of a local woman during a police search. In the violence that followed back then, a policeman was killed. David Lammy, British Labor MP, summed up the situation this way: "We now need restraint and calm. And I say to those who wanted to come to Tottenham to cause violence and disturbance to stay away, we don't need you. We don't want 25 years of rebuilding community and trust destroyed because of mindless nonsense." Fingers-crossed that the situation will be brought under control for the sake of the communities, and people, involved. Our prayers go with them all. extreme violence took place - police moved the appropriate level of resources in Posted by Lexi, Tuesday, 9 August 2011 3:10:20 PM
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but mate these are the times of collective insanity
[your banking mates took their scam too far]
You have the power to cripple national consumerism.
Yes, You.
Walk away.
Walk away from mortgages, interest, fees, taxes and materialism.
First you must begin to look at your relationship with the paper in your wallet. You have to let it go. Money is fake and they give it in small amounts, then take it back in bigger amounts.
Always leaving you working your @ass off for a few material goods.
bought on 'credit'..intrest free till you miss a payment
when the whole lot with ursury comes due
and the fool con-sumers dont got a clue
Is it worth it?
Do you feel better or bigger or happier in your lexus?
Does it change your family dynamics
or the relationship with your wife?
You have to let it go.
Stop playing in the playground,
it's designed to never let you win. Why keep playing?
if you got nothing left to loose
you think [delusion]..you got everything to gain
[and in jail you get 3 square meals a day]
id put up links
but your too stuborn to read anything
thats a symp-tom....of a men-tall dis-ease
anyhow you just gotta laugh
men take things too seriously
no one can own 'anything'..or conive to enslave everyone
and stil claim to be sane..in insane times
your leaders were given proofs
the bankers were told
now chickens go home to roost
in time we will all see the joke
and die laughing...death where is thy sting*
[you got no tail]
anyhow what to play as lon-don burns
the wall?
or the writing..on the wall