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The Forum > General Discussion > Drunken Ben Bernake Finally Tells the Truth.

Drunken Ben Bernake Finally Tells the Truth.

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pure/o
the mahjor cause of the current market 'fluctuations'
is a two fold problem..one compounding the 'other'

firstly there are those who are short selling
[thats people 'selling' stock they dont own..!

to drive the price down..!
[when the auto computer sell programs kickin]

short selling stuff
*you DONT own is fraud
but fortuinatly some euro countries have suspended that play[for now]
just like we had to do in 2008...but it was soon back

see the auto sell 'pro-grams'..are easy to 'predict'
[you set them to sell...if the market falls say 2%..or 4 '
as seems to be the default...as these clever fraudsters have found]

as im sumising by the recent percentage jumps and plunges
and the rather large sell/buy orders that appear on various charts i posted

so affectivly...
some clever low margin traiters/proffiteers..
[their names too..have been posted]
..steal your super funds...as many of them use these automated systems

its not as if the 'advisers'
in the media couldnt tell us the truth..
but then their mates..wouldnt be cleaning out our super
so as they chose

short selling is fraud
why govt isnt sending in 16,000 police to raid the money changers is one of them mystries..that is easy solved when we see how long police and polies took to get their gear on in london..

police police petty govt policy
like were seeing now in uk

..in lue of policing the true crime
and the really rich criminals..who dont do 'petty crime]but real tort/rort

and thus we see the poor kids getting raided
and having 15 cops raid kids..instead of the clever pratts in wall/fleet street..who all should be in jail

and police seizing their assets
Posted by one under god, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:13:03 PM
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OUG,

I noted this afternoon that various countries were reinstating short selling bans once again....just like in 2008.

It really is the "jitters" in general affecting confidence, spreads like wildfire in the course of a trading session. For some reason in 2008 I found myself sitting up at night just watching it all take place over a number of months. It began just as it is now - and then governments began to inject billions every time there was a sharp fall...and the market would lift briefly, but couldn't sustain confidence and fell back sharply at the first hurdle...and then the financial institutions began to falter and fall by the wayside - and voila! a GFC!
Posted by Poirot, Friday, 12 August 2011 10:26:56 PM
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*and then the financial institutions began to falter and fall by the wayside - and voila! a GFC!*

And then what? Smart investors waited until the greedy were all
jumping out of windows, then went and picked up bargains like BHP
and others, for a song.

The present problems however are not caused by investment banks,
which really arn't banks in the true sense of the word, but by
Govts borrowing ever more to win the next election. Eventually
it catches up with them.

Short selling is of course not illegal, it is quite legal to
borrow shares, usually its done from super funds, for a price.

If the short sellers judge the fundamentals wrongly, they lose their
shirts. But if they get it right, all they do is expose the problem
for what it is. No more kicking the can down the road for next week.
Of course Govts don't really want to admit that they are broke.
Posted by Yabby, Friday, 12 August 2011 11:03:17 PM
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its not govts alone who affectivly are 'broke'
its nopt that banks are afraid of lending,,as much as that fractional reserve lending needs that actual fraction[and govt is the easiest way so far..to bailout that 'fraction'

se a bailout of a million affectivly creates
only 50 million in new credit...so a billion bailout only provides the fractional reserve funding for 50 billion[and even by moving the actual cash around at night[making the money work 24/7]..dosnt bailout the 4 quadrillion of collective global debt

aas we know govts are broke
big busness hasnt got the cash flow [in the main]..to cover even the intrest..thus the debt keeps growing..even as the asset bases keep shrinking

the next hurdle will be the trillion dollars
kids need to pay back to those 'education LOANS'
[with no jobs..thats an ever growing pile of govt GUARENTEED debt]

just like fannie may etc
all over again..the next junk bonds market
[add in the euro bond sins..france loosing its AAA+]

govt globally ned to take back the banks
and revaluate coins base values back to true values[commensurate with their silver weighted values AS IF WE STILL HAD TRUE silver coinage

adding intrest upon ursury..how thats working for who?
do we take the haircut..or do those who foolishly threw pounds after marks...lira's..dracma's

capitalists are dead[or dying]
govts need to step in to pay base wages
help the workers take over their workplaces..[in the real economy]

and let wall/fleet street..retain their faith in their fiat paper banking system..before the thieves steal all the capital..from the greed is god..blinded capitalists..trying to beat inflation

by stealing the servants super
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 August 2011 9:16:34 AM
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its not govts alone who affectivly are 'broke'
its nopt that banks are afraid of lending,,as much as that fractional reserve lending needs that actual fraction[and govt is the easiest way so far..to bailout that 'fraction'

se a bailout of a million affectivly creates
only 50 million in new credit...so a billion bailout only provides the fractional reserve funding for 50 billion[and even by moving the actual cash around at night[making the money work 24/7]..dosnt bailout the 4 quadrillion of collective global debt

as we know govts are broke
big busness hasnt got the cash flow [in the main]..to cover even the intrest..thus the debt keeps growing..even as the asset bases keep shrinking

the next hurdle will be the trillion dollars
kids need to pay back to those 'education LOANS'
[with no jobs..thats an ever growing pile of govt GUARENTEED debt]

just like fannie may etc
all over again..the next junk bonds market
[add in the euro bond sins..france loosing its AAA+]

govt globally ned to take back the banks
and revaluate coins base values back to true values[commensurate with their silver weighted values AS IF WE STILL HAD TRUE silver coinage

adding intrest upon ursury..how thats working for who?
do we take the haircut..or do those who foolishly threw pounds after marks...lira's..dracma's

capitalists are dead[or dying]
govts need to step in to pay base wages
help the workers take over their workplaces..[in the real economy]

and let wall/fleet street..retain their faith in their fiat paper banking system..before the thieves steal all the capital..from the greed is god..blinded capitalists..trying to beat inflation

by stealing the servants super
Posted by one under god, Saturday, 13 August 2011 9:16:55 AM
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That's funny, Arjay.

>>OUG Pericles won't debate real monetary policy.He sees counterfeiting by private central banks as a legimate form of exploitation.He constantly obfuscates and will not debate the reality.<<

This particular "debate" stared with your insistence that Ben Bernanke got drunk in "Elwood's Corner Tavern".

Very difficult to take seriously, I'm afraid.

Even more so that your usual tosh. Especially when your idea of "real monetary policy" involves Ron Paul and the gold standard.

Have a great day.
Posted by Pericles, Saturday, 13 August 2011 10:26:55 AM
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