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Murdoch? All is not what it seems.

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While Ruppert Murdoch pushed for the invasion of Iraq and has led the charge of demonising Muslims for the terroists attacks of 911,there is another side which most don't realise.

On Fox News Murdoch allows "Freedom Watch' hosted by Judge Andrew Napolitano who supports Ron Paul and the restoration of the US Constitution.Ron Paul wants to end the US Federal Reserve,the private banking system who owns and creates the US currency.Although this segment is miniscule by comparison to the vast media coverage of over 100 outlets owned by Ruppert,he has made a token gesture to freedom and democracy on this segment.

In analysising the phone tapping debacle we now learn that it was not only 'News of the World' who were involved in phone tapping.Sean Hoare before his death said that phone tapping was common knowledge and this practise was wide spread.So if other media outlets were culpable,why is Murdoch now being targeted?

My observation is this.Many are now on the bandwagon of breaking up this media empire,but who has the monetary capacity to buy it? If Wall St interests and the Central Banking System buys it up,there will not even be a token gesture to fairness ,democracy or truth.
Posted by Arjay, Monday, 25 July 2011 7:32:16 PM
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Here is another hint to why Fox News is upsetting sectors of the corporate establishment.Geraldo Rivera once called them nut jobs but now changes his opinion.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kP0Hs-v-uJ0
Fox has also been showing ads by AE911truth called "Building What?"

It seems to me the elite eastablishment is in serious conflict.Some do not want to expand the wars of imperialism or bring about a total economic collapse.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 8:17:27 AM
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Arjay,

I once watched a segment of Glenn Beck's show where Andrew Napolitano totally demolished the whole premise that Beck was putting forward. (unfortunately the subject escapes me at present). The thing was that Beck had emdeavoured to stack his audience with his supporters (obviously) and he put his views to Napolitano, who proceeded to blow them out of the water - it's the closest I've seen to Beck being speechless. And eventually Beck was given his marching orders from Fox - not that long after his "successful" rally with the Tea Party.....interesting.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 8:27:27 AM
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Thank you arjay for posting this subject.
And while my comment may appear sarcastic let me truly say it is not meant to be.
I honestly want to say I think you have been brain washed and take the trail most different to the one leading to truth.
I posted about ten links, from British, American, Canadian papers in articles.
Each showed a difference we have not seen in this country for 50 years.
Press not under orders, free to look under rugs, and even free to say Murdock, visited the Prime Minister via the back door.
A 30year old will have a different out look than a 60 year old on this subject.
I am 66 soon, and have lived this scandal about 5 times before.
Power wealth influence is just bait for the true wealthy.
They get very much more than they give.
Rupert Murdock walks in his fathers foot steps, power has always been the reason for press.
70%! think about it! of our Media, is controlled by this family.
About 30% no more,of us understand politics.
Of those who do not,those who read papers as the truth the whole truth and nothing but?
You my Friend sit blindly unaware on a very true hidden conspiracy.
Media has its hand on the throat of business trade defense information , all in the name of self interest power privilege and control.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 8:58:26 AM
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Here's someone worse than Madoff. Read then forward this link to everyone you know, so they don't get scammed: http://texsquixtarblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/foxmurdoch-versus-amwaydevos.html
Posted by Tex, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 10:07:02 AM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/25/murdoch-interview-could-have-been-tougher-wsj
This link leads first to the British paper that broke the story, then to what now is Murdock's proudest possession.
It too shows a standard of reporting both depth and amount, we are unlikely to see in Australia.
No need to ask why fear, that it may be too early to say justice has got its eyes and heart working.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 11:59:41 AM
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Poirot,Glen Beck tries to play bothsides of the debate.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4PyqwX-2GE Here we see Glen trying to debunk the existance of FEMA camps.There are supposed to be over 600 put there by Bush.Beck was going to air the story but does 180 deg backflip and says they don't exist.

Was he asked to leave Fox or given a really big hint to resign?
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 3:38:07 PM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/norway/8660986/Norway-shooting-Glenn-Beck-compares-dead-teenagers-to-Hitler-youth.html
Here arjay is a link that tells what a grubby man your hero is
I am having trouble containing my feelings about the bloke so leave before I say something bad.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 4:09:37 PM
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Belly I did not say he was my hero.Often we have to weigh up the lesser of two evils eg your dysfunctional Labor Party and the Coalition. You obfuscate again.You make statements based on your own bias constantly and ignore the facts presented.Find someone else to annoy and try thinking for a change.
Posted by Arjay, Tuesday, 26 July 2011 6:37:11 PM
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arjay I have just posted and in that post spoken about a growing rudeness in OLO.
So feeling a bit strange in posting this.
However cowardice is not one of my sins.
I reply to you and your post out of respect for your right to think as you wish.
And to communicate, it seems to me that is why we all post.
You seem to find it hard that very few agree with you.
And you CONSTANTLY insult those who do not agree with you.
Your insult to me, like others is the same one, I am a product of brain washing by my party.
Be assured arjay,I Will never consider you a victim of brain washing.
I have no ill will toward you ,sympathy yes .
But unlike you I am not fixed and blind to good bad and even evil in my party.
A better world starts when every one of us values Truth first second and third.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 7:01:31 AM
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You refuse to look at the hard core scientific facts or any reasoned logic on 911.Go talk to Kevin Bracken,he's one of the few in your Union movement who has real cougage and insight.You feign outrage after constantly alluding to my grip on reality?You have become a joke of your own making.So move on Belly and talk to Kevin.
Posted by Arjay, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 7:21:55 AM
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http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/27/world/europe/27hacking.html
This link is Horrific, it is not up for debate, just truly reports the closeness of politics and Murdock's.
It is from America.
Links clearly openly show,, in both England and America this story is being reported on the front pages and in depth.
Australians, victims of 70% ownership, get no such open reporting.
I know this thread will not be one of true debate true understanding or review of the subject.
Arjay, your last post here is the reason, some walk some run away from your posts/threads.
Not because of content, that sometimes maybe, but your stubborn refusal to understand haveing an opinion other than yours is not a sign we/I refuse to look, to consider other views, bloke you here, convict only your self of that sin.
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 11:59:32 AM
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/8664425/Phone-hacking-ministers-meet-Rupert-Murdochs-News-Corp-every-three-days.html
On the day we get to know how many times Australian conservatives met who from this International trader in power.
This country will be rocked by the implications
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 27 July 2011 3:35:17 PM
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Murdoch Packer

Not much difference really

Both were involved in live exports which is why the brutal treatment of animals has been kept out of the media for decades.

Both had no problems destroying many peoples lives

Of course Australia's media is controlled

That pretty much sums this thread up

Cheers
Posted by Kerryanne, Saturday, 30 July 2011 10:06:53 PM
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Kerryanne;You have to be aware how the elites manipulate the situation to their advantage.The Lowy Institute does not exist for your or my benefit.Gillard made her first announcement there as our PM.
Posted by Arjay, Saturday, 30 July 2011 10:16:11 PM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/phone-hacking
I must know! tell me why did a LEGAL firm delete these e mails knowing its client are under investigation over them?
The link could have been to two British papers or one American.
It would be extremely hard to find such commentary here in our press why?
Is this scandal not the biggest media one ever.
Is there a chance we soon my be up to our eyes in this.
Remember the phone hacking seems to be a symptom not the problem.
Power privilege and influence has been owned by too many very rich men for too long.
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 12:37:42 PM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2011/aug/01/rupert-murdoch-keith-olbermann
This link too gives a reported insight in to the man at the helm of news International.
A great blinding fog envelopes public thought in Australia.
So very many, on both sides will form opinions on this or any subject, based on politics not truth.
My concerns are the purchasing of power using influence and promises power and free publicity.
In the end is this mans open door visits to 10 Downing street, our Lodge or even the While house, negating voters will?
Posted by Belly, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 12:53:02 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/world/police-arrest-11th-suspect-in-news-corp-hacking-probe-20110803-1ia5g.html
11 so far arrested three so far gone from the highest positions.
Maybe more than those under arrest in total.
Australian Prime Minister, as did every one before her from 1975, and every opposition leader meets with?
Murdock Media heads.
WHY
Why do we have Media Barons? to inform /lead/influence?
Posted by Belly, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 4:29:00 AM
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Arjay,

Nobody is more aware of that than I. Its the reason we still have such appalling animal welfare in this country. A few years back we had our cormo express in WA on a smaller version. Not one paper would report on it. As one senior bloke said I would love to run this - but it would never go to print & i would be sacked days later for dare suggesting it.

I saw the trial run through the media of Terry Lewis X Police Commissioner in QLD. Some worked to try to prove he was bricked - one decent Journo with a colorful family background.

He did the unthinkable and waited where Fitzgerald used to exist the building to try to get the message through about media set ups.

Not to mention these days you have to pay"" huge $ to a media company rep to get a story out. You are aware of the history of Australia media and why it was brought and set up - i assume?
Posted by Kerryanne, Saturday, 6 August 2011 10:34:35 AM
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